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PostSubject: Entropic Strike vs Squadrons   Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:51 am

1st let us remind ourself on how things go when we attack a Squadron of Vehicles:
i) roll to hit
ii) on hit --> roll for penetration
iii) on glance or penetrate --> owner allocate to vehicles within squadron
iv) owner roll saves (if got any)
v) roll damage result for each vehicle in the squadron

No problem here.

Next.. we go to Entropic Strike vs a single Vehicle:
i) roll to hit
ii) on hit --> roll for entropic strike
iii) for each hit --> roll for penetration (against reduced armour value)
iv) owner roll saves (if got any)
v) roll for damage result

No problem here too..

Finally.. Entropic Strike vs Squadron:
i) roll to hit
ii) on hit --> roll for Entropic Strike
iii) for each hit --> roll for penetration (against reduced armour value)
iii) on glance or penetrate --> owner allocate to vehicles within squadron
iv) owner roll saves (if got any)
v) roll damage result for each vehicle in the squadron

The problem..
My 3 Scarabs attacks a Squadron of 3 Leman Russ. 15 attacks --> 10 hits --> 5 successful Entropic Strike
--> Does it means all Vehicles in the Squadron reduce their armour by 5? There wont be any allocation since allocation was done only for Glance/Penetration.

True or False ?


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PostSubject: Re: Entropic Strike vs Squadrons   Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:57 am

To be fair i think upon knowing how many entropic strike, owner allocate them.
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i) roll to hit
ii) on hit --> roll for Entropic Strike
iii) for each Entropic Strike hit --> owner allocate to vehicles within squadron
iv) for each hit --> roll for penetration (against reduced armour value if majority of the armour is lower)
v) on glance or penetrate --> owner allocate to vehicles within squadron
vi) owner roll saves (if got any)
vii) roll damage result for each vehicle in the squadron
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PostSubject: Re: Entropic Strike vs Squadrons   Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:40 am

it should be allocated like any wound taken..spread out evenly.
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PostSubject: Re: Entropic Strike vs Squadrons   Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:33 pm

One entropic strike affects one vehicle at a time, so I can't see how it can reduce all vehicles in the squadron.

As to who allocates successful entropic strikes on the squadron, it can be argued that it does not count as wounds nor glancing/penetration hits on its own, so it is unknown to us whether you can actually allocate it by either players.

Logically, since you can't allocate hits to which vehicle in the squadron, I would house rule it to count as entropic strike "wounds" suffered. However, the player controlling scarabs would in all circumstances can't choose to allocate things against a unit/squadron except for when there's independent characters or special rules allowing.
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PostSubject: Re: Entropic Strike vs Squadrons   Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:27 am

Next.. Lets say we do as Joe/Diff said and allocate the Entropic Strike between Tanks within the squadron. Say after rolling for entropic strike

Tank 1 - armour reduced to 9
Tank 2 - armour reduced to 7
Tank 3 - armour reduced to 8

Which armour value do we refer to when rolling for armour penetration?
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PostSubject: Re: Entropic Strike vs Squadrons   Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:37 am

easy. if no majority armor group, take the highest to be resolved. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Entropic Strike vs Squadrons   Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:33 pm

Aiyah.. it is there in the rulebook --> If armour is different between models in a squadron, always use the armour value of the nearest model for armour penetration.
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PostSubject: Re: Entropic Strike vs Squadrons   Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:19 am

that should clear things up.
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