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PostSubject: Too much or too little? [Terrain pieces]   Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:42 am

The table is usually field with 6 or less medium sized terrain pieces. But I'm wondering is this sufficient terrain to simulate a proper battlefield?

I've heard arguments saying the less terrain there are on the table, the more it favours vehicles and ranged heavy armies against armies which are assault based and vice versa to some extent. But more importantly, is having more terrain = more fun?

I say this because the less terrain you have on the table, the less brain work you have to do since you have abundant of open terrain to move around, putting shooty units in cover without much need to contemplate the line of sight.

That said, I've only played in Hobby Forge and seen the tables of Legio at the Magacon. Of course, I can't expect much more because I do not provide the terrains but I would assume they are expensive and would be time consuming to make a realistic one.
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PostSubject: Re: Too much or too little? [Terrain pieces]   Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:13 am

There is a guide in the rulebook that you should fit 25% of the board with terrain. if your game is particular on this, then just divide your table into 4 quarters then choose a quarter and fit all the terrains you can fit into that quarter. Those are the amount of terrains you can use to start your game. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Too much or too little? [Terrain pieces]   Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:42 am

I'm not asking what the book says, I'm asking what would be your view on the amount of terrains.
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PostSubject: Re: Too much or too little? [Terrain pieces]   Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:49 am

25% lor. we don't really bother much. even if the terrain doesn't favor you, when you can win the game, you will feel even much more accomplished.

a good example was i think last year's legio 40k tournament when i played my daemons. 1st round only I got the Death City board. Imagine 80% of the board is filled with buildings. Though some daemons died due to mishap, I played my best and won that game and resulted me winning both 2nd and 3rd round.

basically, don't get too delved into something which is beyond your control. focus more on your list building and the way you can make the best out of a bad situation. that can be in your control. your list must be flexible enough to handle different type of scenarios which in your concern will be the number of terrains.

just my 2cents.
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PostSubject: Re: Too much or too little? [Terrain pieces]   Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:08 pm

Personal preference cones out tops IMO both sides should negotiate on how much terrain to use.
I personally love terrains with lots of defensive positions, trenches and hell blasted landscapes.
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PostSubject: Re: Too much or too little? [Terrain pieces]   Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:08 pm

I think the fun with terrain is adapting to whatever terrain is given.

If there's not enough, I have to think about maneuvering wisely... If there's too much, I have to think about placement.

So for me, it's whatever the terrain-gods give, take it!

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But let's not forget what terrain is good for - making your models look better Very Happy So I'm biased towards PAINTED terrain *Alvin, hint hint!*
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PostSubject: Re: Too much or too little? [Terrain pieces]   Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:12 pm

yalor, alvin been stopping painting up the terrains for very very looooong dy lor. *hint hint*
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PostSubject: Re: Too much or too little? [Terrain pieces]   Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:16 pm

You know what, my favourite is playing WITHOUT terrain, no hindrance, no arguments. *hint hint*

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PostSubject: Re: Too much or too little? [Terrain pieces]   Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:18 pm

can.... you go play orks or nids la. *hint hint*
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PostSubject: Re: Too much or too little? [Terrain pieces]   Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:21 pm

Nah, they're retired for now, currently in Blood Angels and Iron Warriors mode. If we play without terrain, I'll use my Iron Warriors la, seems funny.

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PostSubject: Re: Too much or too little? [Terrain pieces]   Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:01 pm

Shooting contest between your iron warriors and my tanks. That would be funny.
Line them up and let rip.
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PostSubject: Re: Too much or too little? [Terrain pieces]   Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:04 pm

oi alvin, pass your terrain around for us to paint la. Some of us won't mind painting a few for your shop la. Very Happy it's a community after all.
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PostSubject: Re: Too much or too little? [Terrain pieces]   Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:06 pm

I don't mind passing some around, only if you guys are up to it.

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PostSubject: Re: Too much or too little? [Terrain pieces]   Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:09 pm

thread hijacked : (painting stuff? me wan join!)
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PostSubject: Re: Too much or too little? [Terrain pieces]   Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:17 pm

I'll think of something and come up with something about that.

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PostSubject: Re: Too much or too little? [Terrain pieces]   Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:00 pm

Make a terrain painting day. U supply the terrains, paints and brushes, we supply the time..
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PostSubject: Re: Too much or too little? [Terrain pieces]   Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:01 am

that sounds good actually.. we player come and do the painting for you... nice..nice...

besides that i do have some terrain that i build up at home... if you want.
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PostSubject: Re: Too much or too little? [Terrain pieces]   Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:06 am

Back to topic. I personally don't think there's such a thing as too much or too little terrain. When I lay out terrain it's always to a theme, or a certain kind of look and feel. So if it's a city theme, there will be definitely too much terrain. It's got to be cluttered and claustrophobic. If it's a plains w patches of woods, then it's most likely what most people call "balanced" amount of terrain. If it's desert, then it will be sparse. And themes are limited only by your imagination really. It's part of the fun. I always say that they way you lay out terrain should tell a story - when you look at the table and terrain, it should look like there's a story behind it.
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PostSubject: Re: Too much or too little? [Terrain pieces]   Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:54 am

spunkybass wrote:
when you look at the table and terrain, it should look like there's a story behind it.


true that.

like an abandoned, overrun fort in dense snow terrain,
or a surfaced alien ship in thick marshland,

those are the terrain i'd like to see or play in Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Too much or too little? [Terrain pieces]   Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:55 am

Actually, now I got a lot of ideas on what to do with some of the terrain.

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