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PostSubject: new Chaos Space Marine codex FAQ    Sat Oct 20, 2012 2:22 pm

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m2710181a_Chaos_Space_Marines_v1.0a.pdf

GW released new CSM codex FAQ!

Page 61 – Typhus, Plague Zombies
Change to ‘Plague Zombies are Chaos Cultists that have the
Fearless, Feel No Pain and Slow and Purposeful special rules
and cannot purchase options other than to add additional
models to the unit.’


Page 69 – Axe of Blind Fury
Change first rules sentence to ‘Models with the Mark of
Khorne, or Daemons of Khorne, only.’


Page 91 – superscript note 5
Change to ‘Models with the Mark of Khorne, or Daemons of
Khorne, only.’

Page 97 – Chaos Terminators, Options, second bullet point
Change to ‘Any Chaos Terminator may choose any of the
following three options:’

Page 97 – Helbrute
Change points value to 100 points.


What a Face now I have 5 point left for the discount of Helbrute =p
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PostSubject: Re: new Chaos Space Marine codex FAQ    Sat Oct 20, 2012 4:20 pm

I wonder what's tge rational behind the 5 points discount.
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PostSubject: Re: new Chaos Space Marine codex FAQ    Sat Oct 20, 2012 4:48 pm

cookie_yip wrote:
I wonder what's tge rational behind the 5 points discount.

to remind folks the importance of Aspiring Champion should randomly pack a melta bomb, maybe? Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: new Chaos Space Marine codex FAQ    Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:24 am

True.. I learned it the hard way today hahaha

GW FAQed the Blind Axe just as how I expected. You see, the Axe of Blind Fury gives Rage special rules to it's user, and the only Khorne unit without Rage special rules in the codex is the Daemon Prince. Pretty obvious actually, nice GW.

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PostSubject: Re: new Chaos Space Marine codex FAQ    Sun Oct 21, 2012 3:22 pm

Hah! Now I got 10 points extra. Dreadnoughts are awesome.

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PostSubject: Re: new Chaos Space Marine codex FAQ    Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:53 am

me thinks helbrutes are gud gud
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PostSubject: Re: new Chaos Space Marine codex FAQ    Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:53 am

what's the best upgrade for hellbrutes?
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PostSubject: Re: new Chaos Space Marine codex FAQ    Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:08 am

Erm.. no upgrades?
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PostSubject: Re: new Chaos Space Marine codex FAQ    Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:27 am

100 pts for hell brute.. that cheap. With upgrade there are way better then SM dread.
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PostSubject: Re: new Chaos Space Marine codex FAQ    Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:29 am

Really?

But 2 attacks base only. Sad


Was thinking of dual powerfist. 4 attacks base and 5 on the charge. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: new Chaos Space Marine codex FAQ    Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:54 am

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4 attacks base and 5 on the charge.
Only 3 attacks ma.. 4 attacks on the charge.
If you want him to guard your line than okay lah.
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PostSubject: Re: new Chaos Space Marine codex FAQ    Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:04 am

I thought 2 specialist weapon (power fists) grants him another attack? Smile
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PostSubject: Re: new Chaos Space Marine codex FAQ    Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:15 am

ya la... 2 base 2 CC weapon +1 charge +1 la.
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PostSubject: Re: new Chaos Space Marine codex FAQ    Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:32 am

i thought additional melee weapon gives the walker an additional attack like in 5th ed? Razz
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PostSubject: Re: new Chaos Space Marine codex FAQ    Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:10 pm

you wish its still 5th ed huh... Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: new Chaos Space Marine codex FAQ    Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:31 pm

Of course you get additional attack, but only one extra powerfist so +1 only la.
2 (base) + 1 (2nd PFist) + 1 (Charging) = 4. I wish we can dedicate then to Khorne like in 3.5 Smile
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PostSubject: Re: new Chaos Space Marine codex FAQ    Tue Oct 23, 2012 2:32 am

A bit confused here. On pg 84 it says if a walker is armed with two or more melee weapons, it gains +1 bonus attack for each additional weapon after the first.

So if hellbrute, has 2 powerfist, won't it be getting:
2 (base) + 1 (2 melee) + 1(a pair of specialist weapons) ?

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PostSubject: Re: new Chaos Space Marine codex FAQ    Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:35 am

Dr-DOOOM!!! wrote:
A bit confused here. On pg 84 it says if a walker is armed with two or more melee weapons, it gains +1 bonus attack for each additional weapon after the first.

So if hellbrute, has 2 powerfist, won't it be getting:
2 (base) + 1 (2 melee) + 1(a pair of specialist weapons) ?


I think you have a point Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: new Chaos Space Marine codex FAQ    Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:10 am

does vehicles get specialist weapon rule?
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PostSubject: Re: new Chaos Space Marine codex FAQ    Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:36 am

not that i can find it. Smile

to add on, looking at other melee weapons available to Hellbrute and standard Dreadnaught.

Dreadnaught Close Combat Arm = Sx2 AP2, melee
Power Scourge = S8 AP2, melee, flail (Minus D3 weapon skill to enemy)

None of the above have specialist weapons rule.

So maybe Phill Kelly intended to allow Hellbrute to be armed with Power Fist for that reason instead? Hmmm.....
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PostSubject: Re: new Chaos Space Marine codex FAQ    Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:24 am

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A bit confused here. On pg 84 it says if a walker is armed with two or more melee weapons, it gains +1 bonus attack for each additional weapon after the first.

So if hellbrute, has 2 powerfist, won't it be getting:
2 (base) + 1 (2 melee) + 1(a pair of specialist weapons) ?
Nope.. to make it easy, you must understand the rules for Specialist Weapon. It didn't give +1 attack. It says you only get the +1 attack for using two melee weapons if both weapons are Specialist Weapons.

So for Helbrute, let say:
i. 2 PFist = 3 attacks since both weapons are Specialist Weapons
ii. 1 PFist and 1 PScourge = 2 attacks only since PScourge is not a Specialist Weapon.

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PostSubject: Re: new Chaos Space Marine codex FAQ    Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:29 am

Then aren't you ignoring the walker melee weapon rule? Smile
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PostSubject: Re: new Chaos Space Marine codex FAQ    Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:15 am

Actually if looking at the context of permissive ruling, Kadir could be right.
What do others think?


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PostSubject: Re: new Chaos Space Marine codex FAQ    Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:02 am

I had to look thru my rulebook for this one... yup, Kadir's right I think.
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