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PostSubject: Wanna try something new in 6th?   Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:40 am

Hi guys, I've been observing other countries' tournament and friendly games mission and can't help but notice that they do not roll 1 on the mission chart but 2!
I find it very interesting and it does help to answer some of the concerns we have when we get these 3 missions:

RELIC
- Is the most disliked mission among all. Reason being shooty static army usually fail to gain mid ground quickly to win the game.
- As most the time players won't be able to get the Relic, First Blood will be the key decider in this mission.

EMPEROR'S WILL
- The mission that carried over from 5th ed. This mission either win or draw but mostly ending with draw.
- Again, First Blood will be the key decider in this mission.

PURGE THE ALIEN
- Another mission that carried over from 5th ed. This mission punishes MSU armies and greatly favor deathstar armies with very little units.
- Troops are totally pointless in this mission.


So if we get to play 2 missions in a game like other communities, I think it helps brings more flavors to the game as we will have 12 types of combination missions available to us! Not to mention, it pushes a more all-rounder armies to be able to take these kinda missions. Troops will always be a necessary.

Maybe Legio can help pushes this idea with their year end 40k tournaments? *hint-hint* Wink
What the rest of you guys think? Smile


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PostSubject: Re: Wanna try something new in 6th?   Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:20 am

I think the missions are okay and fun because they encourages balance in list building.

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Another mission that carried over from 5th ed. This mission punishes MSU armies and greatly favor deathstar armies with very little units.
The list of mission is balanced. What good in A, may not be good in B. My DE for example, is good in almost all missions. But I cursed my luck so much when I rolled 2 (KP game). Take that lost, and save it in the book of grudge for next time.

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- Troops are totally pointless in this mission.
10 Cultists are useless. 10 CSMs are not. Your choice Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Wanna try something new in 6th?   Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:33 am

you see, if we have 2 missions in a game. It changes quite a lot of things. you won't see the scenario where:-

player A brings DE. player B brings GK all paladin list. Rolled KP game. GG. No need to play also know who will probably win the game without playing unless DE can TA the GK.

Yes, you can argue it brings more challenges to the DE player but I think the idea is worth exploring where it gives more chances to the under dog army to outperform if the scenario below happens:

player A brings DE. player B brings GK all paladin list. Rolled KP and Scouring game. DE can try to score with objectives while the GK will try to score more on KP. Depending on the players. It gives the player varieties to play the game.

Anyway, just sharing what I've observed in other communities. Maybe can give it a try with my opponents (if they wanna try it too) and see how it goes. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Wanna try something new in 6th?   Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:56 pm

I see that. But how do we determine which VP is more important? KP or Scouring?

Say in a game, my DE got FB and StW, captured 2 objectives against GK 1 objective. I lead by 4-1 VPs. But GK destroyed 15 of my 22 KPs. 3 of them Fast Attacks. That is 18 VPs already.. My DE still lost by a lot Laughing

Wanna change how we play 6th Ed.? It's there in the rulebook already. Play a narrative game for example Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Wanna try something new in 6th?   Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:05 pm

i think some balancing needs to be thought out first. For example, Relic + another objective scoring game.

Relic is worth only 3 VP, but scouring already has 2 objectives which are 3VPs and 1 which is worth 4 VPs.

It should be interesting, but like I mentioned on FB, some balancing is required.
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PostSubject: Re: Wanna try something new in 6th?   Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:37 pm

haha... is just an idea after watching some of the BOLS battle report videos which have 2 missions.

@AK, if that happens at least you have chance to score some VPs vs none at all right? Wink

@Dann, maybe they have but I don't know the details. Just know that they have 2 missions in a game. For your scenario, both relic and scouring should still remain the same. At least Relic we can carry it away from LOS. lol. And we can still score VP by killing fast attacks! So much options to play! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Wanna try something new in 6th?   Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:24 am

I actually like Relic by itself. It forces people to come and get it. Good for mediocre CC-based armies like mine. It's just that the relic costed way too low. It should be 5 VP and has random Relic Special Rules by itself to show it's importance.

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PostSubject: Re: Wanna try something new in 6th?   Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:46 am

Just bumping this thread up since BOLS actually released an article on it. Have a read guys. Smile

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2013/08/brent-whats-wrong-with-book-missions.html

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