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PostSubject: Re: Necron Dynasty of DOOOM!!!   Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:24 am

Nice, I can play against your new list later, I too have a new Death Company list. Full on Death Company spam.

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PostSubject: Re: Necron Dynasty of DOOOM!!!   Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:38 am

this time should be able to withstand your charge. hehehehe.
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PostSubject: Re: Necron Dynasty of DOOOM!!!   Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:56 am

I just posted up my new list, you can go see. Haha.

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PostSubject: Re: Necron Dynasty of DOOOM!!!   Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:46 pm

Today tested my list vs 2 players. 1st vs Edward's Gay Knights.
2nd vs Alvin's Death Company list (old one with 2 stormravens).

1st game the army was resilient enough to stand against the Gay Knight's army. Furthermore, 2 turns of night fighting causes its shooty stuff fail to kill stuff.
TA-ed the Gay Knights.

2nd game I played it right with going 2nd (though I won the roll) but instead of walking in, the lychguard unit should not deepstrike in. 2nd turn I conceded as the rolls were insanely de-moralizing. lolz

THOUGHTS:
- So against normal balanced army, my list can stand against them but I do have problem against dedicated assault army with mobility such as Alvin's Death Company list.
- We test play after the game just to see the now full squad of 8 Lychguards with Obyron, Overlord and 2 Chrono-teks, withstanding the assault of a full squad of 10 Death Company with Lemartes plus a Death Company Dreadnaught.
The necrons died of course. lol
- So I realize the key and only way to beat this type of dedicated assault army is to take down the mobility in the early game.
- With that in mind, I'll try to swap the Overlord to a CCB Lord so that I have another threat unit and able to better take down armour.
- Below is the latest list I will try tomorrow. Smile




-Overlord with warscythe, weave on Command Barge
-Nemesor Zahndrekh
-Vargard Obyron
-8 Lychguards with 2 Aeon Crypteks (2 x Chronometron & 2 Timesplinter Cloak)
-5 Warriors with 2 Lance Crypteks (1 x Solar Pulse)
-Ghost Ark
-5 Warriors
-7 Scarab Swarms
-Annihilation Barge
-Annihilation Barge
-Annihilation Barge
Total: 1750

Nemesor and Obyron will go with the Lychguard unit. I found out that having the Nemesor in transport cannot use his special counter tactic. (FAQ)

So will try against Alvin again tomorrow. His army is now my list performance benchmark. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Necron Dynasty of DOOOM!!!   Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:35 pm

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So will try against Alvin again tomorrow. His army is now my list performance benchmark. Razz

Lol. Tomorrow can try again. I might bring a new list since I want to expand my Death Company army.

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PostSubject: Re: Necron Dynasty of DOOOM!!!   Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:35 pm

Oh... i got this one list i wanna test tomorrow too. lagi powderful but super gay.



-Overlord with Warscythe, Weave, Mindshackle Scarab Swarms on Command Barge
-Nemesor Zahndrekh

Royal Court of DOOOM!!!
-5 Necron Lords with 5 Warscythes, 5 Weaves, 5 Phase Shifters, 5 Mindshackle Scarab Swarms
-1 Aeon Cryptek with Timesplinter Cloak and Chronomtron
-1 Abyssal Cryptek with Veil of Darkness
-3 Lance Crypteks with Solar Pulse and Gaze of Flames

-5 Warriors
-5 Warriors
-6 Scarab Swarms
-Annihilation Barge
-Annihilation Barge
-Annihilation Barge
Total: 1750

Yup, more than 1000pts spent on just 1 super uber unit. lolz
The unit has a lot of 3+ inv saves (7 of them!) and 2+ inv saves too (6 of them). I put in the Lances so that enemy will not ignore them as they will shoot out 3 S8 per turn with a re-roll.

Lolz, with so many mindshackle scarab swarms, is pretty cool.

Now come charge me, Death Company..... Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Necron Dynasty of DOOOM!!!   Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:43 pm

Yeah, sounds like a super crazy uber GHEY cheese list. But it looks like fun. I believe that my 2 units charging into it will definitely bring it down.

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PostSubject: Re: Necron Dynasty of DOOOM!!!   Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:02 pm

Tried the super crazy uber GHEY list today (list above).
1st game vs Alvin's new DC (with redeemer). Mission KP and deployment Dawn of War.
Took down his mobility early in the game so managed to control much of the game due to his RAGE.
My deathstar squad charged a DC squad but couldn't finish them off. Was then charged by the 2nd DC squad. I stayed on and managed to slowly kill of them.
Game went on to turn 7, managed to TA the DC. Hoooray for the Necrons! Smile


2nd game vs Yip's space puppies. Mission was 1 objective each and deployment is Dawn of War.
He has 2 JAAWS, I played carefully so that he didn't get to JAAWS me early in the game. But he still managed to JAAWS my deathstar unit twice (targeting my Nemesor along with other guys in the squad, min 4 poor fellas). My rolling too sucky dy and both time the Nemesor survived. lolz.
Yip had upper hand during mid game as I was not able to deal with so many marine bodies.
Managed to draw the game with 1 overlord contesting his objective and none claimed on mine.
My deathstar unit only left Nemesor, 1 Lord and 1 Cryptek only. lolz


MY THOUGHTS:
- The 1100+ death star unit is only playable against elite armies like the DC or GK. I had problem against so many marine bodies against Yip. So i'm sure the list will die to horde armies.
- Both Alvin and Yip gave input that a Monolith will be better against them since I lack proper marine killers. Not to mention the DC can't get FnP too.
- Overlord on CCB was great as his first turn managed to pop a Reedemer against Alvin. And though against Yip i didn't manage to even pop a rhino, it did deliver my Overlord all the way to his 2 squads of Long Fangs. Not to mention, it did attract all the Long Fang fires directed at his CCB. A splendid fire magnet.
- I will make a new list incoporating the Monolith soon! Stay tuned! Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Necron Dynasty of DOOOM!!!   Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:08 pm

Gay gay gay. I still think that list was unreliable. Maybe if I played my 2 Stormravens, the story would be different. Definitely let me charge you instead.

For a 1,120 point Death Star to fail killing a few Death Company dudes during an assault, especially when you charge is quite sad actually. My 300 point unit can hold you down for so long. Hahahaha.

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PostSubject: Re: Necron Dynasty of DOOOM!!!   Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:19 pm

no gay no game. lolz
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PostSubject: Re: Necron Dynasty of DOOOM!!!   Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:22 pm

Maybe I'll make a list without Stormraven and see how that fares. Rhino SPAM!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Necron Dynasty of DOOOM!!!   Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:28 pm

ya, dunno why i can't seem to kill rhinos. emo. sad. Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Necron Dynasty of DOOOM!!!   Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:30 pm

Wow, somehow Rhinos are more dangerous for you. Hahaha.

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PostSubject: Re: Necron Dynasty of DOOOM!!!   Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:54 pm

Okay, i'm stuck between these 2 lists. Need you guys to give some input.


LIST A:
-Overlord with warscythe, weave on Command Barge
-Nemesor Zahndrekh
-Vargard Obyron
-8 Lychguards with 2 Aeon Crypteks (2 x Chronometron & 2 Timesplinter Cloak)
-5 Warriors with 1 Lance Cryptek (1 x Solar Pulse)
-5 Warriors
-5 Warriors
-5 Scarab Swarms
-Annihilation Barge
-Annihilation Barge
-Monolith
Total: 1745



LIST B:
-Overlord with warscythe, weave on Command Barge
-Nemesor Zahndrekh with 3 Lance Crypteks (Solar Pulse) and 1 Aeon Cryptek (Chronometron)
-5 Lychguards with Necron Lord with Res Orb, Warscythe, Weave, MSS and Veil Cryptek
-5 Lychguards with Necron Lord with Res Orb, Warscythe, Weave, MSS and Veil Cryptek
-5 Warriors
-Ghost Ark (Nemesor and 4 Lance Crypteks will hijack this)
-5 Warriors
-Annihilation Barge
-Annihilation Barge
Total: 1750pts


List A has a anchor squad of Lychguards, Monolith and Scarab Swarms. The Lychguard squad can go in deep into enemy lines early in the game. And if Obyron is killed (since he has no inv), the Monolith can still teleport the squad back in case of danger from enemy. But if a mishap on the Lychguard squad, game over.

List B has more balanced spread with 2 units of teleporting Lychguards and a Ghost Ark that has 3 shots of S8 AP2 shooting each turn (S9 from Nemesor's tank hunting ability) with a re-roll. But the lychguards are not as durable as List A with re-rolls. And the list has no Monolith.

So how?
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PostSubject: Re: Necron Dynasty of DOOOM!!!   Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:58 pm

List A better. At least got 3 troops. Otherwise it's just another min-max list...

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PostSubject: Re: Necron Dynasty of DOOOM!!!   Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:43 am

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Gay gay gay. I still think that list was unreliable. Maybe if I played my 2 Stormravens, the story would be different. Definitely let me charge you instead.

For a 1,120 point Death Star to fail killing a few Death Company dudes during an assault, especially when you charge is quite sad actually. My 300 point unit can hold you down for so long. Hahahaha.

hai ya alvin dont say his list gay la... your list pun apa kurang.. gay jugak. Ok what gay list fight gay list.. only gay play with gay.... Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Necron Dynasty of DOOOM!!!   Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:57 am

List A has no tank popping capability as good as list B wor.

Ok, break down on both list shooting and combat damage output potentials

LIST A:
- 12 KP
- 8 S7 TL AP-
- 1 S8 AP2
- 1 S8 AP3 Big Blast
- 16 S5 Power weapons attacks
- 6 S7 Warscythe attacks (maybe more from Obyron)
- 3 min troops
- Got monolith
- Got scarab swarms


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- 11 KP
- 8 S7 TL AP-
- 3 S8 AP2
- 20 S5 Power weapon attacks
- 7 S7 Warscythe attacks
- 2 min troops
- Got ghost ark

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PostSubject: Re: Necron Dynasty of DOOOM!!!   Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:09 am

i like list A better.. i dont see the use of the ghost ark if your warrior unit is so small.. if it was 10 warrior still ok la.
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PostSubject: Re: Necron Dynasty of DOOOM!!!   Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:25 am

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Alvin K wrote:
Gay gay gay. I still think that list was unreliable. Maybe if I played my 2 Stormravens, the story would be different. Definitely let me charge you instead.

For a 1,120 point Death Star to fail killing a few Death Company dudes during an assault, especially when you charge is quite sad actually. My 300 point unit can hold you down for so long. Hahahaha.

hai ya alvin dont say his list gay la... your list pun apa kurang.. gay jugak. Ok what gay list fight gay list.. only gay play with gay.... Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

Haiyo, where got, my list no scoring, so little men, got Rage, minimum invul saves, easy to beat wan.

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PostSubject: Re: Necron Dynasty of DOOOM!!!   Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:43 am

that why no.. no scoring... you dont need any.. you kill them all...ahhahhaha
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PostSubject: Re: Necron Dynasty of DOOOM!!!   Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:12 am

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i like list A better.. i dont see the use of the ghost ark if your warrior unit is so small.. if it was 10 warrior still ok la.

The ghost ark is meant for the Nemesor and 4 crypteks to hijack wan, providing a AV 13 platform shooting out 3 S8 shots per turn with re-roll.

Then again List A has more flexibility as it has Monolith and Scarabs. Monolith can help teleport my Overlord back to safety if his CCB crashes. Scarabs can go tank hunting or priest hunting (against Yip, 3 swarms assaulted a lone Priest. He then failed to save 1 wound. Next assault phase, the scarab swarms just ate the naked priest alive. lolz)

Ok ok, to test out List A this weekend! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Necron Dynasty of DOOOM!!!   Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:28 am

i play with you on sunday.. ok.
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PostSubject: Re: Necron Dynasty of DOOOM!!!   Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:33 am

Sure.
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PostSubject: Re: Necron Dynasty of DOOOM!!!   Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:48 am

I'll be there on Sunday then..
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PostSubject: Re: Necron Dynasty of DOOOM!!!   Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:27 am

i will have to check what time my wife class will be.. if early i might open the shop again... Very Happy
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