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PostSubject: Throng of karak eight peeks   Throng of karak eight peeks EmptyThu Feb 20, 2014 7:19 pm

Made my first dwarven list.

I kinda like how sturdy the dwarfs are, the Quarrelers now can take shields. Giving them an edge when they get charge since they can use their hand weapon n shield n get the shield wall bonus.

The runesmith and Grimm will join the querrelers giving the unit reroll misses, and armour piercing. Belegar will join with the BSB in the hammerers unit making them even more deadly! That guy is one scary monster he has ASF, 4(.Cool attacks, +1 to wound, 4+ ward and killing blow or any instant death wounds cause only 1 wound.

Can't wait to try em soon!



+ Lords +

   * Belegar Ironhammer
       (Ancestral Grudge, Relentless, Resolute, Revenge Incarnate, Shieldwall, Stubborn)
       Gromril Armour

+ Heroes +

   * Grimm Burloksson
       ("Stand Back Sir", Ancestral Grudge, Entrenchment, Master of Accuracy, Relentless, Resolute)
       Cog Axe (Weaponsnapper), Grudge-raker

   * Runesmith
       (Ancestral Grudge, Forgefire, Magic Resistance (1), Relentless, Resolute, Rune Lore, Shieldwall)
       Gromril Armour, Hand Weapon, Rune Of Stone (*) +1 armour save
       * Rune Of Spellbreaking
           * 1st Rune - dispell rune
               2nd Rune - dispell rune, 4+ Opponents spell is destroyed, cannot be casted again.

   * Thane
       (Ancestral Grudge, Relentless, Resolute, Shieldwall)
       Battle Standard Bearer, Gromril Armour, Hand Weapon
       * Runic Standards
           Master Rune of Groth One Eye (*) 12" stubborn bubble

+ Core +

   * Dwarf Warriors
       (Ancestral Grudge, Relentless, Resolute, Shieldwall)
       Great Weapon, Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Musician, Standard Bearer, Veteran
       * 30x Dwarf Warriors

   * Quarrelers
       (Ancestral Grudge, Relentless, Resolute, Shieldwall)
       Crossbow, Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Musician, Standard Bearer, Veteran
       * 21x Quarrelers

+ Special +

   * Cannon
       (Ancestral Grudge, Stubborn)
       Rune Of Accuracy (*) reroll scatter dice
       * 3 Dwarf Crew
           Hand Weapon, Light Armour

   * Cannon
       (Ancestral Grudge, Stubborn)
       Rune Of Accuracy (*) reroll scatter dice
       * 3 Dwarf Crew
           Hand Weapon, Light Armour

   * Gyrocopter
       (Ancestral Grudge, Armoured Copter, Dive Bomb, Fly, Relentless)
       Steam Gun, Vanguard (*)

   * Gyrocopter
       (Ancestral Grudge, Armoured Copter, Dive Bomb, Fly, Relentless)
       Steam Gun, Vanguard (*)

   * Hammerers
       (Ancestral Grudge, Kingsguard, Relentless, Resolute, Shieldwall, Stubborn)
       19x Hammerers, Great Weapon, Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Keeper of the Gate, Musician
       * Standard Bearer
           Master Rune of Valaya (*) +2 to dispell, on a 3+ remains in play spells are dispelled

+ Rare +

   * Gyrobomber
       (Ancestral Grudge, Armoured Copter, Bombing run, Fly, Relentless)
       Clattergun, Hand weapon

   * Organ Gun
       (Ancestral Grudge, Stubborn)
       Rune Of Forging (*) reroll misfire
       Rune Of Accuracy (*) +1 to hit
       * 3 Dwarf Crew
           Hand Weapon, Light Armour
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PostSubject: Re: Throng of karak eight peeks   Throng of karak eight peeks EmptyFri Feb 21, 2014 5:46 am

Nice list, how many points was that? My DE would love to fight them. Though those cannons make Crone Hellebrone wet her panty hahaha..

Why did the cannon take Rune of Accuracy? Cannon don't scatter kan, or do they shoot differently?
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PostSubject: Re: Throng of karak eight peeks   Throng of karak eight peeks EmptyFri Feb 21, 2014 6:44 am

you can reroll the bounce but I am thinking giving it forging instead can reroll missfire
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PostSubject: Re: Throng of karak eight peeks   Throng of karak eight peeks EmptyFri Feb 21, 2014 6:55 am

Reroll misfire is better. I read dwarven cannon now causes d6 wounds instead of d3 previously. True isit? Scary.

Bila boleh lawan ni?
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PostSubject: Re: Throng of karak eight peeks   Throng of karak eight peeks EmptyFri Feb 21, 2014 7:07 am

yea d6 its a 2500 pts army. I kinda a bit partial about having a lord tho its 305 pts very mahal... thinking of dropping him for more units. like the rangers or the irondrakes
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n dwarven cannon with any runes counts as magical when it shoots too
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PostSubject: Re: Throng of karak eight peeks   Throng of karak eight peeks EmptyFri Feb 21, 2014 11:28 am

Real nice.. I need to come up with a tactic to fight lists with cannons.
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PostSubject: Re: Throng of karak eight peeks   Throng of karak eight peeks EmptyFri Feb 21, 2014 1:00 pm

Made a second list which includes rangers. They are scouts which will be good for me to play with various tactics including protecting my flanks and my warmachines as well as threaten other warmachines and flanks.


+ Heroes +

* Grimm Burloksson
("Stand Back Sir", Ancestral Grudge, Entrenchment, Master of Accuracy, Relentless, Resolute)
Cog Axe (Weaponsnapper), Grudge-raker


* Runesmith
(Ancestral Grudge, Forgefire, Magic Resistance (1), Relentless, Resolute, Rune Lore, Shieldwall)
Gromril Armour, Hand Weapon
* Rune Of Fire
1st Rune (*)
* Rune Of Spellbreaking
* 1st Rune
(*)
2nd Rune (*)


* Thane
(Ancestral Grudge, Relentless, Resolute, Shieldwall)
Battle Standard Bearer, Gromril Armour, Hand Weapon
* Runic Standards
Master Rune of Groth One Eye (*)


+ Core +

* Dwarf Warriors
(Ancestral Grudge, Relentless, Resolute, Shieldwall)
Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Musician, Standard Bearer, Veteran
* 30x Dwarf Warriors
30x Great Weapon


* Thunderers
(Ancestral Grudge, Relentless, Resolute, Shieldwall)
Dwarf Handgun, Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Musician, Standard Bearer, Veteran
* 21x Thunderers
21x Shield


+ Special +

* Cannon
(Ancestral Grudge, Stubborn)
Rune Of Forging (*)
* 3 Dwarf Crew
Hand Weapon, Light Armour


* Cannon
(Ancestral Grudge, Stubborn)
Rune Of Forging (*)
* 3 Dwarf Crew
Hand Weapon, Light Armour


* Gyrocopter
(Ancestral Grudge, Armoured Copter, Dive Bomb, Fly, Relentless)
Steam Gun, Vanguard (*)


* Gyrocopter
(Ancestral Grudge, Armoured Copter, Dive Bomb, Fly, Relentless)
Steam Gun, Vanguard (*)


* Hammerers
(Ancestral Grudge, Kingsguard, Relentless, Resolute, Shieldwall, Stubborn)
Great Weapon, 19x Hammerers, Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Keeper of the Gate, Musician
* Standard Bearer
Master Rune of Valaya (*)


+ Rare +

* Gyrobomber
(Ancestral Grudge, Armoured Copter, Bombing run, Fly, Relentless)
Clattergun, Hand weapon


* Organ Gun
(Ancestral Grudge, Stubborn)
Rune Of Accuracy (*)
* 3 Dwarf Crew
Hand Weapon, Light Armour


* Rangers
(Ancestral Grudge, Relentless, Resolute, Scouts)
Crossbow, Great Weapons, Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Musician, 10x Ranger, Throwing Axe


* Rangers
(Ancestral Grudge, Relentless, Resolute, Scouts)
Crossbow, Great Weapons, Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour, Musician, 10x Ranger, Throwing Axe

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Aiseh shit.. This one would hurt us badly
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PostSubject: Re: Throng of karak eight peeks   Throng of karak eight peeks EmptyMon Feb 24, 2014 5:30 am

after two games, I think I got some ideas how to tune the list a little.

Things that work/dont work

Thunderers! the fact that Grimm Burloksson on a 2+ allows the whole unit to reroll hits is really awesome. I am thinking of building a bigger bulk of em now, even in a charge they will hurt bcs they don't get -1 to stand and shoot and they get 4+ armour 5+ parry from shield wall in the turn you charge. In a fat block of 30 they will be firing 30 S4 armour piercing shots per turn (reroll misses!)

Organ gun!, they are pretty solid unit, quite expansive at 170 points but its because of those runes the reroll missfire and +1 to hit allows me to fire on average 10 S5 armour piercing shots per turn. I am trying to work out how to bring a second one.

Cannon, tbh it has been underwhelming.. in the last game it just kept bouncing off its mark which is really annoying and personally not worth its points, If I want to rune it up to reroll missfire and also bounce it will cost me as much as an organ gun upgraded. So I am a bit partial about bringing too many of this guys.

the bomber! is really good, It just keeps criss-crossing the opponents units and dropping bombs does wither down the enemies horde, and it can still fire its gun in the shooting phase. I find it also works well as a redirector and also to road block the opponent to force him to charge that instead of my unit.

the gyrocopter is ok, the flamer does well to thin down hordes, and also having vanguard does help a little to deal with enemy scouts and harass the enemy flanks a little. Will definately keep him in for future games.

I need a rearguard unit prob two to watch my flanks a little better, It was annoying to get my warmachines stuck by fast cavalry and my dwarves cant really react to them fast units since they are slow. But Rangers are rare, and worse still 14pts each, so I need to find another cost efficient unit to help protect my flanks... thinking getting 2 units of 10 quarrelers whom are armed with crossbows, and give them shields in units of 10 to do some rearguard protection for my force. Also since the flyers of the dwarven air force will be already harassing the enemies rear from turn 1, I might opt not to bring em rangers after all


verdict - what is clear I love range weapons!... granted they wont match the wood elves shooting But what they lack in quality they come in quantity hehehehe... My tau of the fantasy world!
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PostSubject: Re: Throng of karak eight peeks   Throng of karak eight peeks EmptyMon Feb 24, 2014 9:26 am

ironbreakers bro! ironbreakers! Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Throng of karak eight peeks   Throng of karak eight peeks EmptyMon Feb 24, 2014 10:23 am

iron breakers ok also they are basically tzeentch warriors
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PostSubject: Re: Throng of karak eight peeks   Throng of karak eight peeks EmptyMon Feb 24, 2014 12:47 pm

hammerers are really nice as a fat block of face smacking. But they die too easily... dwarves are ganas cause they are resilient... breaking the enemies back by just staying in the fight and not folding.
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So.. Will you join the April tourney?
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PostSubject: Re: Throng of karak eight peeks   Throng of karak eight peeks EmptyTue Feb 25, 2014 5:19 am

yea I might skip the campaign next month and focus on painting
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PostSubject: Re: Throng of karak eight peeks   Throng of karak eight peeks EmptyTue Feb 25, 2014 5:34 am

with all the craziness going on in 40k, maybe I should go back to Fantasy and have a bash with you folks. lol
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PostSubject: Re: Throng of karak eight peeks   Throng of karak eight peeks EmptyTue Feb 25, 2014 7:07 am

Yeah man U mastered 40k now come n bash us in fantasy! Very Happy on a serious note I get where you are coming from on the "craziness" bit, Gonna give 40k a hug and will see it when 7th ed comes out.
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