Eldar Guardians revisited

I was looking at my models the other day and realized that I haven't played my Eldar in awhile. Worse still, there are some models in there that I haven't used in a long long time. So here's a list which is meant to bring these models back on the table. No idea how they would do in battle though.

HQ:
Farseer Lahn - fortune, guide, spirit stones, runes of warding, singing spear, jetbike

ELITES:
Fire Dragons (5)

TROOPS:
Guardians (10) - shuriken cannon
Wave Serpent - twin-linked bright lance

Guardians (10) - shuriken cannon
Wave Serpent - twin-linked bright lance

Guardian Jetbikes (6) - 2x shuriken cannon
Warlock (1) - emobolden, singing spear, jetbike

FAST ATTACK:
Vypers (2) - each w scatter laser and shuriken cannon

Vypers (2) - each w scatter laser and shuriken cannon

Warp Spiders (6) - w Exarch w twin death spinners

HEAVY SUPPORT:
Wraithlord - bright lance

Wraithlord - bright lance

Falcon - scatter laser, pulse laser, shuriken cannon

guide is really gold now (or the Divination equivalent - forgot the name) - especially if you've got dire avengers + bladestorm

Eldar turn - shoots with 20+ reroll to hit shots

Enemy turn - attempt to charge dire avengers, eats overwatch bladestorm 30+ reroll to hit shots!

Waah.. Bladestorm last one game turn?

About the list:
i. Fire Dragons in Falcons. Wouldn't they better ride a Wave Serpent instead?
ii. 2x3 Jetbikes is better coz can claim more objective, but maybe not your style.
iii. What is your plan for the Guardians?

bladestorm needs one turn to reload - but if you're gonna be assaulted, I'd suggest you keep it for overwatch

No plan for the Guardians. Definitely scoring units, and possibly mobile ones too. Good thinking about the fire dragons in a serpent, I'll do that. From my experience, 3 man jetbike squads always die in one round of fire. This list is a bit rojak. No idea how to play it yet

They are hard to kill with T4, 3+ armour and extra move in assault. I lost against Din due to his Jetbikes. Betul-betul kacau.

I dont know about Eldar, but if I'm not wrong Din once had a plan to play them aggresively, only with flamers. 2xflamers or something, in Serpent.

No Snipers eh.. lucky hahaha

Ya, I've been playing with the snipers too long now. Time to give them a break. Yes, Storm Guardians can have 2x flamers, and the Warlock can have a heavy flamer equivalent too. I remember this squad once rentung a genestealer squad in just one shooting phase

And in the old days, Storm Guardians can even have haywire ... pity cannot do that now

Guardians are cool models. They just need better armour, WS, BS and Ld.

2 Flamers+1 Heavy Flamer sounds good. I wonder why no one play them. Maybe because they are expensive kot. How much for a unit like that in Serpent?

This list reminds me to Chaotic Eldar and his Khornate Guardians. Every Guardian units move forward, next turn disembark, shoot, assault! My Raven Guards got pushed back by mere Guardians and lost!

Serpent is expensive.

If I remember my Eldar Codex, 10man Guardians with 2 flamers, + Warlock with Destructor is roughly 130pts. Serpent is 80 base, and you must add a weapon ranging from 5 to 40 pts.

You know me - I don't know how to play gunline

The Storm Guardians mahal ... 127 for 10 guys + Warlock. Plus another 135 for bright lance wave serpent ...

mahal ... but sexy

Bright Lance Serpent is gila mahal!!

I know, but both my serpents have custom built bright lance turrets. Shuriken cannon much cheaper

At the time the Eldar Codex was written, the Brightlance was like 'OMG!'

Buying 2 Brightlances can buy you a Ravager! That's how badly Eldar need a new Codex!

The funniest part is that the Eldar codex is always outdated. And yet still always deadly

Seriously, the codex is good. They are only outdated in terms of pointcost. GW can make everyone happy just by throwing out some erratas like they did to the Helbrute.

A new codex earns money... so doubt they'll just do an errata... plus I want a Warp Spider Phoenix Lord!

A codex would take years. If I were GW, I'd settel down with errata 1st. Can keep the Eldar sales healthy in between new codex release.

Warp Spiders Phoenix Lord? I want the Shining Spears Phoenix Lord!

Truthfully,I'd prefer if they just include the other more useful Falcon chassis grav-tanks in the new codex instead of the useless Nightspinner. Or the Hornet as a Fast Atk option (this is not OT cuz they r being piloted by guardians afterall).

Better yet, a Flyer of our own..Hey, DE got TWO of them in a single codex!!

I think its going to be an uphill battle against Chaos cuz they now have 2 types of weapons with the 'torrent' rule - BBoS & Baleflamer, both which can be fired while the units are airborne/flying.

At least with Hellhound & Dreadknight they have to land on the ground & can be taken care of much easier. But BBoS & Baleflamer..adoi sakit!

But then again, Lan is known for managing to pull the rug from under the opponent..why don't you try an acid test game & see how it goes.

well technically you got 3 flyers in the FW books... FW models are becoming pretty welcoming for some models since gw keeps upping the price

and some of those flyers are seriously op and aint that expansive

Will definitely try out this list tonight. And next time, Eldrad will come do a surprise visit w my Rangers

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Better yet, a Flyer of our own..Hey, DE got TWO of them in a single codex!!

DE and Eldar are battle brothers maa. It's like me (DE) and you (Eldar) hahaha.

Baleflamer and Burning Brand is surely OP when comes on Flyers. That's why never take 2 of them unless it's tourney. But then again, asking CSM player not to take them is like asking GK players not to take more than one Psyfledread lah, or BA not to take Storm Raven or IG not to take Vendetta squadron. All also cheese, in their own way.

Flyers can all be dealt with. Admittedly I've never lost both Stormravens in a game where they weren't hovering. But consider how much shooting the Eldar have at their disposal + guide.