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PostSubject: Huron and Fabius combo MAUT!   Huron and Fabius combo MAUT! EmptyWed Oct 17, 2012 7:02 am

I wonder will this list work.


Huron Blackheart (Warlord Trait=Master of Deception: Gives D3 Infantry units Infiltrate rule)

Fabius Bile (Gives 1 unit of CSM the Enhanced Warriors rule: +1 S and Fearless)

20 CSM with close combat weapon (no boltguns)
- Mark of Khorne
- Power Fist
- Veterans of the Long War
- Icon of Wrath: Reroll charge distance
- 2 Melta Gun
- Gift of Mutation

20 CSM with boltguns (no close combat weapon)
- Mark of Nurgle
- Power Fist
- 2 Plasma Guns
- Gift of Mutation

3 Termies
- 3 Combi Melta

10 Cultist

5 Havocs
- 4 Autocannons

Aegis Defense Line
- TL Quad Gun


Total: 1498 points



Huron gives D3 infantry unit to infiltrate.
If get 1 unit, will infiltrate with Huron and Khorne CSM which gets Enhanced Warriors from Fabius. Fabius will go with Nurgle CSM (to give them Fearless) and footslog them to provide fire support.
If get 2 units, will infiltrate with both Khorne CSM and Nurgle CSM. Huron goes with Khorne. Fabius will give Enhanced Warriors to Nurgle CSM and babysit the Cultist with his Fearless.

If luck permits, 2/3 of the time I'll have 40 CSM able to come knocking on your door in turn 2. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Huron and Fabius combo MAUT!   Huron and Fabius combo MAUT! EmptyWed Oct 17, 2012 7:18 am

Haha, wow. It will be insane to assemble them.
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PostSubject: Re: Huron and Fabius combo MAUT!   Huron and Fabius combo MAUT! EmptyWed Oct 17, 2012 7:53 am

Yup.. i think it will work great bro.

The only way to deal with this for my WE is sent a Prince with Black Mace to the fearless unit. Issue challenge, win. Then pray you fail 29 toughness test Laughing

Then sent my 24 Berserkers to deal with the remaining 20 marines.
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PostSubject: Re: Huron and Fabius combo MAUT!   Huron and Fabius combo MAUT! EmptyWed Oct 17, 2012 8:19 am

20 toughness test to be exact. Huron will probably accept your DP challenge with his 4+ inv saves. Then with 20 men supporting around him, i will have 4 re-rolls.
Can la. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Huron and Fabius combo MAUT!   Huron and Fabius combo MAUT! EmptyWed Oct 17, 2012 8:20 am

Oh.. the randomness of the psychic power from Huron can be interesting too. hehe.
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PostSubject: Re: Huron and Fabius combo MAUT!   Huron and Fabius combo MAUT! EmptyWed Oct 17, 2012 8:28 am

Yup.. the reroll definitely helps. But I'm not too worry about that. Most importantly is to lock the unit for 2 turns at least.

Maybe I should take a Dirge Caster or two. 40 Rapid Firing overwatch has good potential to cause harm.
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PostSubject: Re: Huron and Fabius combo MAUT!   Huron and Fabius combo MAUT! EmptyWed Oct 17, 2012 8:38 am

My SW-Ultramarines will get 1 Turn (2 Turn max if I get to go 1st) before your mobs reach them in cc. That's quite devastating list u got there.

But my fly-by-flaming Chaos list will have a fun time with this list.
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PostSubject: Re: Huron and Fabius combo MAUT!   Huron and Fabius combo MAUT! EmptyWed Oct 17, 2012 8:40 am

Assuming if you survive my Havoc's Autocannons and the TL Quad Gun. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Huron and Fabius combo MAUT!   Huron and Fabius combo MAUT! EmptyWed Oct 17, 2012 9:05 am

That list has 4 flyers..try la hehehe Very Happy

I just realize a good counter for this crazy idea of yours for my BoTW (Brotherhood of The Wolves) list - buy a Chooser of The Slain wargear for my Rune Priest - kau tim hahaha!!

Then I'd get 90% probability of having 3+ turns to shoot your armies before they reach my line.
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PostSubject: Re: Huron and Fabius combo MAUT!   Huron and Fabius combo MAUT! EmptyWed Oct 17, 2012 9:11 am

Nice! I'll happily take this army on with absolutely no complaints!

This list is Dann-approved!
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PostSubject: Re: Huron and Fabius combo MAUT!   Huron and Fabius combo MAUT! EmptyWed Oct 17, 2012 9:19 am

coz is fabius? lol
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PostSubject: Re: Huron and Fabius combo MAUT!   Huron and Fabius combo MAUT! EmptyWed Oct 17, 2012 9:46 am

Not cheesy, not over-powered. Looks fun for both players Very Happy me likey.
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PostSubject: Re: Huron and Fabius combo MAUT!   Huron and Fabius combo MAUT! EmptyWed Oct 17, 2012 9:56 am

Yup.. same thoughts here.
And more importantly for my WE... Lots and lots of skullsssss!!
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PostSubject: Re: Huron and Fabius combo MAUT!   Huron and Fabius combo MAUT! EmptyWed Oct 17, 2012 10:24 am

but problem is dunno playable or not. lol
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PostSubject: Re: Huron and Fabius combo MAUT!   Huron and Fabius combo MAUT! EmptyWed Oct 17, 2012 11:16 am

@Dann: Of course la you like it. Against your Dann-te Golden army, yours is fast while his is foot-slogging all the way.

Against your Coven army, you got your wish coming true cuz his list is not so shooty and more CC.

Try la my BoTW-Ultramar list. They are not as cheezy, just normal basic space marines.

@Joe: Give it a try & make batrep asap!
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PostSubject: Re: Huron and Fabius combo MAUT!   Huron and Fabius combo MAUT! EmptyWed Oct 17, 2012 11:28 am

@Joe : All army is playable.. you worry about losing too much lar hahaha.. I would drop the termies and take another Cultist for objective grabbing.
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PostSubject: Re: Huron and Fabius combo MAUT!   Huron and Fabius combo MAUT! EmptyWed Oct 17, 2012 11:50 am

haha... losing to me means got room for improvement. that's the fun of army list building. the joy of keep tweaking and testing it.
i've been losing all the way with my CSM until now except 1 or 2 games, forgotten dy. lol. so still venturing.

you are right on the termies, looks a bit off. will remove it to either put in more shooty or another troop. see where else i can squeeze the points. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Huron and Fabius combo MAUT!   Huron and Fabius combo MAUT! EmptyWed Oct 17, 2012 12:14 pm

Looks interesting having a huge blob to infiltrate, will be fun to watch, Being its a chaos mob why not go all the way and make ur cultlist blobs too, proxy and play la n see what happens.. btw i got a huron metal model still in blister if you want to pursue this army Razz

Just a taught instead of fabius why not a basic chaos chaplin... wouldnt that give similar benefits?
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PostSubject: Re: Huron and Fabius combo MAUT!   Huron and Fabius combo MAUT! EmptyWed Oct 17, 2012 4:48 pm

Actually you are right! Should get the dark apostle.
He's much cheaper and have a 4+ inv save.
He gives hatred to his unit as well. So might as well have him lead the khorne dudes instead. Can also spare the vets points on them.

Furthermore the dark apostle is a fantastic mini!
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PostSubject: Re: Huron and Fabius combo MAUT!   Huron and Fabius combo MAUT! EmptyThu Oct 18, 2012 4:55 am

he also has demagogue which makes the unit fearless

in theory you made them better then berserkers cause of the mark + banner + dark apostle + vet of the
long war

damn that's a decked out csm unit!
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PostSubject: Re: Huron and Fabius combo MAUT!   Huron and Fabius combo MAUT! EmptyThu Oct 18, 2012 4:56 am

but berzerkers still have WS5.
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PostSubject: Re: Huron and Fabius combo MAUT!   Huron and Fabius combo MAUT! EmptyThu Oct 18, 2012 5:22 am

true but vs marines ur hitting on 3+ and more importantly reroll misses in the first turn of combat
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PostSubject: Re: Huron and Fabius combo MAUT!   Huron and Fabius combo MAUT! EmptyThu Oct 18, 2012 5:48 am

are there that many marine players? honestly, i thought VOTOW should have been MUCH better. Like hatred everything.

For 3 pts, and only a 50 to 60% chance I'll meet a marine player, I'd rather not get it. Doesn't help fighting against a tau, and tau are useless in HTH.
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PostSubject: Re: Huron and Fabius combo MAUT!   Huron and Fabius combo MAUT! EmptyThu Oct 18, 2012 6:19 am

whats VOTOW?
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PostSubject: Re: Huron and Fabius combo MAUT!   Huron and Fabius combo MAUT! EmptyThu Oct 18, 2012 6:31 am

sorry, it should be VOTLW - veterans of the long war
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