Huron and Fabius combo MAUT!

Actually Vets are good since most opponent are marines (50% is huge number already) But take it only if you got spare points lah.

also good if your units are not fearless as CSM can fail their morale check and you see huge points sink if they go running away off the board.

I kinda think personally the Vet of the long war main use is that 1+ LD which cannot be lost unlike their fearless or icon bonuses which can be single targeted with a nice sniper shot or just thru bad positioning and then getting shot to bits... csm at ld 8/9 isnt that great... i would hate to see my 300 point unit running off the board cause they failed their ld lol

Seriously, I was hoping to see more Ld8 on table because my Harbinger of Despair loves LD8 and below. AP1 flamer rocks!!