ASF + Great Weapons

ASF and ASL cancels each other and so strike at initiative.

Where does it says that High Elves Swordmaster keep the ASF? In the HE rulebook?

It is not written in the DE rulebook so my guess Executioners will strike at Initiative.

Or am I missing something here?

i believe the high elves have that special rule. Its a racial trait I think

In the High Elves errata...

I don't think they keep ASF for Swordmasters and White Lions anymore. The errata referred to Speed of Asuryan right? That's replaced with plain ol' ASF in 8th ed. If I'm not mistaken la.

Speed of Asuryan was from the previous HE army book. Now is just ASF, same as DE.

I checked the GW site but there's no longer any errata/FAQ for HE nor DE. GW removed them.

So now I believe swordmasters, executioners, shades (mine always have GW) or any elves with GW/ASL weapons loses ASF and strike at initiative.

LordAK wrote:

ASF and ASL cancels each other and so strike at initiative.

Where does it says that High Elves Swordmaster keep the ASF? In the HE rulebook?

It is not written in the DE rulebook so my guess Executioners will strike at Initiative.

Or am I missing something here?

They all strike at Initiative, the Swordmasters don't keep their ASF due to the Great weapons they are carrying.

Swordmasters are still scary because they have 2 attacks at WS 6 Strength 5 at Initiative 5. Plus the cost for each model is 13 points.

Executioners is Swordmasters versions for DE.

Striking at initiative means now even my lowly spearmen strikes before them so is can kill a few before they strike back hehehe