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LordAK Lieutenant
Posts : 1957 Honor Points : 6601 Join date : 2012-02-20
| Subject: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:16 am | |
| I've been playing my WE against my Raven Guard as learning process into 6th. The list so far has been the same list I use in 5th as I wanna clearly feel the changes. The list: Daemon Prince 5 Khorne Termies - 4 Meltas, 1 HFlamer, 1 CFist 3x8 Berserkers - 1 PFist (in Rhinoes) 2x5 Raptors - 2 Meltas 2xDakka Pred 2 ObliteratorsTo sum it all up. Rhino rush is still playable for WE. But not for the Mission 2 : Scouring since it is purely based on KPs. Having to chase poeple around and cannot charge upon disembarkment betul-betul hamper us down. After 10+ games I've decided to try new list, taking into consideration of the changes and the 6th new rules --> Allies. And here is the 1st list World Eaters : Khorne Winged Prince 8 Berserkers - PWeapon --> In Land Raider 2 x 8 Berserkers - PWeapon (in Rhino with Havoc missiles) 2 x Pred - Lasscannon side sponsons Land Raider - Dozer Blade
Allied Detachment : Bloodthirster - Unholy Might 10xBloodlettersThe list lacks all the melta goodness of my 5th ed list, so I was betting on the lasscannons to do the job. Summore I've traded all PFist to PWeapon since my PFist almost never gets to attack before die due to challenges. For those who remember, the list resembles my WE back in CSM 3.5 codex very much. The only difference was that back then I use 32 Berserkers on foot and 2x5 Bloodletters and no Land Raider. The only problem to complete the list is taht both me and Din dont remember where we put the Bloodletter models. Anyone willing to part with their Bloodletters? I haven't tried the list, having made it just yesterday (thanks to Joe for the stats). C&C?
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dann.toh Major
Posts : 776 Honor Points : 5405 Join date : 2012-02-21
| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:33 am | |
| nice! i agree, the days of the hidden pfists are numbered! even nobz have to be fearful - 29 ork bodies can't hide you from a challenge No icon for your daemons? | |
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Dr-DOOOM!!! Lieutenant
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| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:37 am | |
| I have my painted bloodletters for sale. Or you don't mind the unpainted metal bloodletters? | |
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LordAK Lieutenant
Posts : 1957 Honor Points : 6601 Join date : 2012-02-20
| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:09 am | |
| @Joe : I'll have a look at you selling thread
@Dann : Icon? can Daemons use CSM ones? I'll have to check the FAQ lah. | |
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dann.toh Major
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| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:57 am | |
| I'm guessing Bloodthirster is 1st wave Nice anyway, but no termies? | |
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Dr-DOOOM!!! Lieutenant
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| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:45 am | |
| termies better man. power axes rocks! | |
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LordAK Lieutenant
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| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:24 pm | |
| @Dann : All Daemons in Allied Detachment must come from reserves.
I've tried termies in Raider once. They're good, but sadly, most of my model wield Power Mace, easy to wound, but easy to save also. I'll try Berserkers first, then maybe try them pulak. | |
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LordAK Lieutenant
Posts : 1957 Honor Points : 6601 Join date : 2012-02-20
| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Mon Aug 06, 2012 12:08 pm | |
| Okay.. I'm trying the list against my DE. DE goes 1st. Mission is 4 : Scouring.
1st turn : Nightfighting. Land Raider exploded by the very 1st Dark Lance shot. It's passengers later ran into big ruins. LassPred immobilised a Ravager. Rest of the shooting by both side were denied by cover/jink+shrouded. 2nd turn : Both Predator exploded. DPrince destroyed a Ravager. Bloodthirster came in Swooping. Razorwing Jetfighter came in from WE left. 3rd turn : DPrince got poisoned to death. Bloodthirster got hit several times (from 3 units) but none able to wound and it passed 3 grounded test. One Rhino destroyed. Razorwing takes aim at the passengers and.. it's here where I stop..
Seems like the DE is bullying the WE. Lucky the Bloodletters is a FMC. Otherwise it would have suffered the same fate as the Daemon Prince. It is too difficult for them WE. I doubt they can turn things into their favour now. But we'll see. | |
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dann.toh Major
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| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:43 am | |
| Seems like my Nids did better than your WE hmm... or is your DE too powerful in 6th ed? | |
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Dr-DOOOM!!! Lieutenant
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| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:46 am | |
| FMC are the only saving grace for CSM now. | |
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LordAK Lieutenant
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| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:12 pm | |
| In the end.. It's totall annihilation for them WE. But they did quite good against my Ravenb Guard. So maybe the DE just got lucky that's all I'll try 2nd time against the DE before I make any conclusion. | |
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LordAK Lieutenant
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| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:59 am | |
| The Daemon as ally is okay lah..but there's a problem with Khorne Daemon as ally since they dont have any shooty element. Daemon ally always came as the 2nd wave, Deep Strike in the 2nd turn, but wont be able to contribute to the WE forces untill the 3rd turn. That isn't the case for other types of Daemons since they have shooting attacks. I'll stick to mono-Khorne aniway. Will bring them to play sometimes, definitely not to any tourney Now onto the next list. This is a WYSIWYG 1750 pure World Eater Legion list tailored to take on the Longinus Initiative. Still no real answer to the SR though Kharn The Betrayer 5 Terminators - Mark of Khorne, 1 Champion, 4 Combi-Meltas, 1 HFlamer, 5 Power Axe (in Chaos Land Raider) 8 Berserkers - Power Axe, 2 Plasma Pistols (Rhino with Combi-Melta) 8 Berserkers - Power Axe, 2 Plasma Pistols (Rhino with Combi-Melta) 8 Berserkers - Power Sword, 2 Plasma Pistols (Rhino with Combi-Melta) Predator - Twin-linked Lascannon, Lascannon Side Sponsons Predator - Twin-linked Lascannon, Lascannon Side Sponsons Tactic: World Eaters specialty --> Rhino/LandRaider/Predator Rush! I miss the days when Plasma Pistols were just 5 points a piece. 15 points is just too much! But since we're on the mission to hunt down the Golden Boys, I'd take it!! hahaha.. | |
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Paxter Admin
Posts : 1444 Honor Points : 6309 Join date : 2012-02-17
| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:05 am | |
| looks pretty solid, sometimes going the tried and true way is usually the best. | |
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dif2find Major
Posts : 843 Honor Points : 5501 Join date : 2012-02-21 Age : 46 Location : In your mind
| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:19 am | |
| now that list looks solid. Maybe we can test this sunday
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LordAK Lieutenant
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| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:38 am | |
| Solid? I see so many loopholes in it hahaha.. Let's have a fight soon. But 1st, I'll have to resist the Pavane of Slaanesh | |
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dif2find Major
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| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:49 am | |
| Ala bro the loophole is flyers bro... thats the loophole. That applies to both of us. | |
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dann.toh Major
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| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:59 am | |
| aiyo tailored for Longinus some more... aiseh man... they're only jump infantry with 2+ armour and power weapons... it'd be interesting to fight this though actually I'm really looking fwd to fighting Nids - I don't think I've ever fought Nids with the Longinus... | |
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LordAK Lieutenant
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| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:33 pm | |
| - Quote :
- fwd to fighting Nids - I don't think I've ever fought Nids with the Longinus...
Other than you, we got Joe, Sukai, and Zaki. We got plenty wat.. - Quote :
- tailored for Longinus some more... aiseh man...
hahaha.. You are the man to kill this month. @Diff : If I may come, I'll make sure to tell you. Then we fight!! | |
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dif2find Major
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| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:55 pm | |
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dann.toh Major
Posts : 776 Honor Points : 5405 Join date : 2012-02-21
| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Thu Sep 06, 2012 2:17 pm | |
| Even I'm not sure how WE is supposed to fight my list... Berzerkers are gonna have a hard time with the 2+ and 5+, and your champion has to brave a challenge from my Priests with lightning claws.
Your termies and predators will be the prime targets of my SRs... But I do have to hide my SGuards for a few turns while I wait for air support, and try and avoid a 2W Kharn. | |
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LordAK Lieutenant
Posts : 1957 Honor Points : 6601 Join date : 2012-02-20
| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:43 pm | |
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- Even I'm not sure how WE is supposed to fight my list...
Not only you, me also hahaha.. - Quote :
- Berzerkers are gonna have a hard time with the 2+ and 5+,
Wrong.. before that could even happen, my Berserkers are gonna have a hard time chasing you around the table - Quote :
- and your champion has to brave a challenge from my Priests with lightning claws.
Brave? They are Fearless wat! - Quote :
- Your termies and predators will be the prime targets of my SRs
There's no hiding from the TL-Multimelta on Flyers. So yes, the Preds are gonna go down real fast. I can only wish your reserve roll sucks and they come one at a time like during our game. It's not gonna be easy. But we'll manage it somehow | |
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shaun Corporal
Posts : 223 Honor Points : 4808 Join date : 2012-02-25
| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Thu Sep 06, 2012 7:42 pm | |
| This is such a biased comment tapi no matter who you play against i will always support your world eaters lar unless its against me haha. Hope dann rolls lots of 1's If your really gonna tailor the Rhino should have Combi-Plasmas also since your gonna have to chase his dudes down. If the Rhino survive at least got 2 Plasma shots which is better than 1 Melta. Terminators can chase Dante's unit since he will usually Deep Strike in and aim for the Raider | |
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LordAK Lieutenant
Posts : 1957 Honor Points : 6601 Join date : 2012-02-20
| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:16 am | |
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- If your really gonna tailor the Rhino should have Combi-Plasmas
No lah.. I'm just having fun with Dann only. If really tailored then not only Rhinoes, the Terminators will all be taking Combi-Plasmas Why bother with Heavy Flamers kan. - Quote :
- Terminators can chase Dante's unit since he will usually Deep Strike in and aim for the Raider
Here's the thing, Dante will melta LR to death. Then the 2 SR sent Bloodstrike Missiles+Lasscannon to the termies, killing them all. Game over for the termies. So I'll go 2nd and put them in reserves!! Termies will deepstrike! LR and Predator move in from table edge and try take down the SR from far with 8 Lasscannons (4 of them twin-linked) starting turn 2. Failing that, it's gonna be a slow process towards defeat | |
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shaun Corporal
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| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:09 am | |
| Haha in the end really become discussion to anti Dann anyway. If not also i always liked the Dakka Pred you use. Cause alot of wounds. Still like it better than the Triple Las Pred because of point cost and well...more is always better kan | |
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dann.toh Major
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| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:41 am | |
| hmmm... i would put one or two Power Sword Champions, so you can challenge my Priest - you want to try and kill the Priest so I would lose the FnP.
If it's power axe, the Priest will happily challenge, cuz there's a high chance the champion will fall to the lightning claws first. | |
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