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PostSubject: The Sun Pirates Rides Again!!   The Sun Pirates Rides Again!! EmptyFri Feb 24, 2012 7:13 am

I am currently in Necron mode. But seeing other DE posts makes me wanna bring my DE back into action. This here is the latest incarnation of my DE.

Succubus - Agonizer
9 Wyches - Hekatrix with Agonizer, 1 Hydra Gauntlet, Haywire Grenades
Raider with Aethersails + Dark Lance
Total : 298

Succubus - Agonizer
9 Wyches - Hekatrix with Agonizer, 1 Hydra Gauntlet, Haywire Grenades
Raider with Aethersails + Dark Lance
Total : 298

3 Trueborn - 2 Splinter Cannons
Venom - 2 Splinter Cannons
Total : 121

3 Trueborn - 2 Splinter Cannons
Venom - 2 Splinter Cannons
Total : 121

5 DE Warriors - Blaster
Raider with Dark Lance
Total : 120

5 DE Warriors - Blaster
Raider with Dark Lance
Total : 120

5 DE Warriors - Blaster
Raider with Dark Lance
Total : 120

3 Reaver Jetbikes - Blaster (81pts)
3 Reaver Jetbikes - Heat Lance (78pts)
3 Reaver Jetbikes - Heat Lance (78pts)

Ravager - Dark Lances (105)
Ravager - Dark Lances (105)
Ravager - Dark Lances (105)

Total: 1750
KPs : 22

The list is not much different than my usual list, except that I traded the greatness of Archon with 2 Succubus. Summore this list sacrifices protection (in the form of Flickerfield, Nightshield and Shadofield) but focus more towards suppressing enemy with large numbers.

I really miss the Desintegrator Cannons, so I'll play them once in a while.

I haven't playtested the list against any of my armies. If time permits, by tonight the Necrons will be the very 1st guinea pigs to try this list.

So how was it guys.



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PostSubject: Re: The Sun Pirates Rides Again!!   The Sun Pirates Rides Again!! EmptyFri Feb 24, 2012 8:26 am

Correct me if I'm wrong but to get an Agonizer, one Wych has to be upgraded to a Hekatrix?
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PostSubject: Re: The Sun Pirates Rides Again!!   The Sun Pirates Rides Again!! EmptyFri Feb 24, 2012 9:07 am

yeaps and you cant have both agonizer and hydra Gauntlet on the succubus

its either replacing your ccw with a special weapon

or replace all weapons with wych weapons ae - hydra gauntlet


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PostSubject: Re: The Sun Pirates Rides Again!!   The Sun Pirates Rides Again!! EmptyFri Feb 24, 2012 11:10 am

Quote :
Correct me if I'm wrong but to get an Agonizer, one Wych has to be upgraded to a Hekatrix
You are not wrong.. It was my fault for not mentioning the Hekatrix upgrade. I thought it was easily understood. Anyway, the points mentioned already include Hekatrix upgrade.

Worry not.. I'll update the list to avoid anymore confusion. Thanks for the reminder Smile
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PostSubject: Re: The Sun Pirates Rides Again!!   The Sun Pirates Rides Again!! EmptyFri Feb 24, 2012 7:20 pm

nice! i rmbr fighting an earlier version of this list! Ganas~ But now I see you've added haywires Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: The Sun Pirates Rides Again!!   The Sun Pirates Rides Again!! EmptyFri Feb 24, 2012 11:57 pm

Of course.. That is a must since THAT DAY! hahaha
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PostSubject: Re: The Sun Pirates Rides Again!!   The Sun Pirates Rides Again!! EmptyMon Feb 27, 2012 6:29 am

What do you mean by "THAT DAY"?
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PostSubject: Re: The Sun Pirates Rides Again!!   The Sun Pirates Rides Again!! EmptyMon Feb 27, 2012 7:20 am

CikguDin wrote:
What do you mean by "THAT DAY"?


10 wyches (the only unit capable of handling my Sanguinary Guards) locked in combat with a Furioso dread. Very Happy

So two Sanguinary Guard units ran amok in Lord AK's lines hahaha
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PostSubject: Re: The Sun Pirates Rides Again!!   The Sun Pirates Rides Again!! EmptyMon Feb 27, 2012 7:53 am

yup.. THAT DAY Smile

I've tried the list against my Necrons. The 1st game DE won, 2nd Game Necron won.

What I learned
DE side:
- Hydra Gauntlet is so not worth it.
- Nightshield on Ravager is a must against Necrons.
- So next game, I'll drop Hydra Gauntlet and give my Ravagers Nightshield.

Necron side:
- Lychguard with Dispersion Shield isn't as good as the one with Warscythe. The Shield helps, but not much with my crappy saves.
- Poison weapons sucks, waste my high Toughness.

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PostSubject: Re: The Sun Pirates Rides Again!!   The Sun Pirates Rides Again!! EmptyMon Feb 27, 2012 6:32 pm

Razorfail are much more useful, i only use the gauntlet cause I dont have enough razorfails for the whole army.
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PostSubject: Re: The Sun Pirates Rides Again!!   The Sun Pirates Rides Again!! EmptyTue Feb 28, 2012 7:20 am

Yup, razorflails are good option, but I always think that it is only a worthy buy for Bloodbrides with their base of 2 attacks. 4 attacks on the charge, reroll to hit and to wound is a don't play-play Smile. Since 3 Bloodbrides can take them in a unit of 9 --> 12 attacks with rerolls!!

By tonight I think I can finish my Harbinger of Despair. Then If I got time, will do a trial game vs my 13th Co. using the same list, but change the Hydra Gauntlet to install 2 Ravagers with Nightshields. Summore, the 2 Ravagers will be packing Desintegrator Cannons this time.

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PostSubject: Re: The Sun Pirates Rides Again!!   The Sun Pirates Rides Again!! EmptyFri Mar 02, 2012 8:57 pm

Okay.. One win. Feels bad coz seems like I bully a beginner.
Dann.. it's all your fault Smile
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PostSubject: Re: The Sun Pirates Rides Again!!   The Sun Pirates Rides Again!! EmptySun Mar 04, 2012 6:42 pm

LordAK wrote:
Okay.. One win. Feels bad coz seems like I bully a beginner.
Dann.. it's all your fault Smile


Whaaaaaarrrrtt? Razz

You should feel worse beating a veteran. How bad would that veteran feel if he lost? hahaha Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: The Sun Pirates Rides Again!!   The Sun Pirates Rides Again!! EmptyMon Mar 05, 2012 4:14 pm

Betul jugak hahaha...

oh yah.. send my regards to that pretty lenglui baby Laughing Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: The Sun Pirates Rides Again!!   The Sun Pirates Rides Again!! EmptyMon Mar 05, 2012 7:10 pm

LordAK wrote:


oh yah.. send my regards to that pretty lenglui baby Laughing Laughing


-.-;
on saturday i dropped by alvin's and she was like 'who was the one i messaged last night?' hahaha
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PostSubject: Re: The Sun Pirates Rides Again!!   The Sun Pirates Rides Again!! EmptyTue Mar 06, 2012 3:46 am

who's the girl? lol
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PostSubject: Re: The Sun Pirates Rides Again!!   The Sun Pirates Rides Again!! EmptyTue Mar 06, 2012 4:50 am

Dr-DOOOM!!! wrote:
who's the girl? lol

chiu kup leng lui Very Happy
my girlfriend la~
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oh... she started to learn how to play dy ar? NICE~!
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no la, she was there accompanying me only... Very Happy

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got better luck with lady luck accompanying you? lol
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PostSubject: Re: The Sun Pirates Rides Again!!   The Sun Pirates Rides Again!! EmptyTue Mar 06, 2012 4:06 pm

I'm done with the final touch up on my Razorwings.. So definitely gonna bring it in the next game. Because of that.. some changes had to be made to the list, the 2nd Succubus had to go.

Succubus | Agonizer, Haywire Grenades
9 Wyches | Hekatrix with Agonizer, Haywire Grenades (in Raider with Enhanced Aethersails, Dark Lance)
10 Wyches | Hekatrix with Agonizer, 2 x Shardnet & Impaler (in Raider with Enhanced Aethersails, Dark Lance)
3 x 5 DE Warriors | Blaster (in Raider with Dark Lance)
3 x 3 Reaver Jetbikes | Blaster
2 x Ravager | 3 Desintegrator Cannons, Nightshield
Razorwing Jetfighter with Dark Lances

Not much changes, except that now there's a Jetfighter and all 3 units of Reavers take Blaster instead of Heatlances. Looking forward to the next game.
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PostSubject: Re: The Sun Pirates Rides Again!!   The Sun Pirates Rides Again!! EmptyWed Mar 07, 2012 2:22 am

I like how Lord AK is just ignoring the attempted thread hijacking hahahaha.

Why Blaster instead of Heat Lance? Your gonna have to Turbo to get into range kan? So isnt Melta and AP1 better than the Lance?

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PostSubject: Re: The Sun Pirates Rides Again!!   The Sun Pirates Rides Again!! EmptyWed Mar 07, 2012 5:19 am

well, for one thing heat lances have a magic range - which is dangerous for reavers who can't do anything in CC.

blasters on the other hand are effective at 18inches.

Consider the extra 6 inches that Reavers have, they can be 24inches away from the enemy after blowing up their transports.
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PostSubject: Re: The Sun Pirates Rides Again!!   The Sun Pirates Rides Again!! EmptyWed Mar 07, 2012 5:43 am

Heat Lance still ok you know?
9" to get the additional melta D6 armour penetration.
Then jump away to safety 6" meaning you will be 14-15" away from enemy's counter attack.
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PostSubject: Re: The Sun Pirates Rides Again!!   The Sun Pirates Rides Again!! EmptyWed Mar 07, 2012 7:23 am

Haiyah.. I forgot. The list has two more units:
2 x 3 Trueborn | 2 Splinter Cannons (in Venom with 2 Splinter Cannons)

Heatlance is okay.. but three things:
i) you'll most probably be in range for counter after shooting. 14-15 inches means they'll be in Rapid Fire range.
ii) you can't hurt Storm Raven (Damn I hate the damn thing!!)
iii) you can't instakill Paladins/Nobz/Tyranid Warriors/Crisis Suits/ICs

Blaster on the other hand:
i) you don't have to leave your cover for that 9 inches melta range.
ii) you can shoot 18 inches and be 24 inches away afterwards.
iii) you hurt monsters on 2+ and instakill T4 multiwound models

But of course, losing AP1 sucks a bit.
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