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PostSubject: CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports   CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports EmptyFri May 24, 2013 6:50 am

Having played my Iron Warriors in the K4, I found that my IW has regained its fangs. Now, I'm really motivated to to upgrade my CSM army in preparation for the next Legio Grand Tournament.

The following list is not my final list, but it is something that I've been thinking for a while now..well, one of the many that I've come up with. It's a balanced list I believe, not too cheezy, but requires lots of paintings to do.

Admittedly, it doesn't have any fluffy ring to it, but the overall theme of the army is one of Chaos Gun-line.


HQ
1. Lucius The Eternal


TROOPS
1. Noise Champion & 9 Noise Marines; 2 Blastmasters, Bolt Pistols & Chainswords, Icon of Excess, Champion with Doom Siren

2. Noise Champion & 9 Noise Marines; 2 Blastmasters, Bolters, Icon of Excess

3. Noise Champion & 9 Noise Marines; 2 Blastmasters, Bolters, Icon of Excess

4. Iron Warriors Champion & 9 Chaos Marines; 2 Plasma Guns, Bolters, Champion's Combi-Plasma Gun, Rhino with pintle Combi-Plasma Gun, Dirge Caster


FAST ATTACK
1. Helldrake: Hades Autocannon


HEAVY SUPPORTS
1. 3 Obliterators: Mark of Nurgle, Veterans

2. 3 Obliterators: Mark of Nurgle, Veterans

3. Chaos Predator: T/L Lascannons, Sponsons Lascannons


Total = 1998 pts.


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PostSubject: Re: CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports   CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports EmptyFri May 24, 2013 7:46 am

Here is list no.2, with shooty-biker Slaanesh Lord & plasma-bikers.


HQ
1. Chaos Lord: Mark of Slaanesh, Lightning Claw, Burning Brand of Skalatrax, Melta Bombs, Chaos Bike, Sigil of Corruption, Gift of Mutation


TROOPS
1. Noise Champion & 9 Noise Marines; 2 Blastmasters, Bolters, Icon of Excess, Champion's Doom Siren

2. Noise Champion & 9 Noise Marines; 2 Blastmasters, Bolters, Icon of Excess

3. Noise Champion & 9 Noise Marines; 2 Blastmasters, Bolters, Icon of Excess


FAST ATTACK
1. Helldrake: Hades Autocannon

2. Biker Champion & 4 Chaos Bikers: 2 x Plasma Guns, Champion with 2 Plasma Pistols & Gift of Mutation, Mark of Slaanesh, Icon of Excess


HEAVY SUPPORTS
1. 3 Obliterators: Mark of Nurgle, Veterans

2. 3 Obliterators: Mark of Nurgle, Veterans

3. Chaos Predator: T/L Lascannons, Sponsons Lascannons


Total = 1998 pts.
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PostSubject: Re: CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports   CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports EmptySat May 25, 2013 4:35 pm

Iron warriors? Mana warpsmith? All i see are noise marines...
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PostSubject: Re: CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports   CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports EmptySat May 25, 2013 5:23 pm

emperors children ke IW bro
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PostSubject: Re: CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports   CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports EmptyMon May 27, 2013 5:07 am

I think it's more like Iron Din-ness Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports   CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports EmptyMon May 27, 2013 7:09 am

Had 2 games on Friday midnight till the morning of Saturday at Kadir's house.

1st game: IW of The Slaanesh & Nurgle Affiliations v/s Raven Guard-SW combo.

I used the static List A, but against a pure close combat army like what Kadir used with the mission being "The Relic", it was a complete annihilation for my army.

If I want to fully utilize the effectiveness & deadliness of the Blasmasters (S8 AP3 Blast Ignore Cover), I'd need to incorporate Huron Blackheart for his Master of Deception warlord trait.

My dice rolls were also really bad that night. I love the Veterans of The Long War rule, confirming nearly 75%++ hits on Kadir's unit in cc, but my to-wound rolls were aweful!

E.g. - Getting 3 wounds out of 20 hits on 4+ rolls...those were super bad rolls.


2nd Game: IW of The Slaanesh & Nurgle Affiliations v/s Necrons.

I tweeked the list a bit, replacing Lucius with Huron, swapping the Noise Marines for 3 sqds of 25 regular CSMs & 1 sqd of 10 shooty infiltrating Elite Noise Marines sqd.

I must say, the infiltrating & shooty Noise Marines did much better this time. With 7 sonic blasters spewing 21 salvo 2/3 shots + 2 blastmasters blast templates per turn, it was awesome!

Never the less, I conceded at Turn 3, mostly since Kadir was leading by 4 - 1 KPs, & I was very much in a zombie-mode - I couldn't even open my eyes anymore & might have collapse right there & then on the gaming table snoring... Sleep


I'm planning to have a go again this week & next week (hurray for the 2-weeks school holidays cheers cheers !!).
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PostSubject: Re: CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports   CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports EmptyMon May 27, 2013 7:35 am

List 3 of the Iron Warriors series. Its a more 1Malaysia-themed where all the factions of Chaos are represented.


Primary Detachment: Chaos Space Marines

HQ
1. Huron BlackHeart

2. Daemon Prince: Mark of Khorne, Power Armour, Wings, Gift of Mutation, Axe of Blind Fury


TROOPS
1. Cult Champion & 9 Chaos Cultists: Autoguns & 1 Heavy Stubber

2. Cult Champion & 9 Chaos Cultists: Autoguns & 1 Heavy Stubber


FAST ATTACK
1. Helldrake: Baleflamer


HEAVY SUPPORTS
1. 3 Obliterators: Mark of Nurgle, Veterans of The Long War

2. 3 Obliterators: Mark of Nurgle, Veterans of The Long War

3. 3 Obliterators: Mark of Nurgle, Veterans of The Long War


Allied Detachment: Chaos Daemons

HQ
1. Lord of Change: Psyker Lvl.3, 1 Exalted Reward, 2 Lesser Rewards


TROOP
1. Blood Reaper & 9 Bloodletters of Knorne: Hellblades


HEAVY SUPPORT
1. Soul Grinder: Daemon of Slaanesh, Baleful Torrent, Harvester Cannon, Iron Claw


Total Points = 1996
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PostSubject: Re: CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports   CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports EmptyMon May 27, 2013 8:36 am

You don't really need the 2 lesser rewards for the LOC. go for 1 greater reward. it adds survivability to him.
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PostSubject: Re: CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports   CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports EmptyMon May 27, 2013 1:02 pm

1 Exalted and 1 Greater is good..
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PostSubject: Re: CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports   CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports EmptyMon May 27, 2013 3:23 pm

Aisey..I didn't realised that LoC can't benefit from his own Grimoire of True Names. In that case, I'd better give him 2 Greater Rewards + 1 Lesser Reward.

Or, I can just take a Blood Thirster instead of LOC with 2 Greater Rewards & 1 Lesser Reward (save 5pts). For the Troop, I'll take Pink Horrors instead of Bloodletters, thus each faction would still be represented.
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PostSubject: Re: CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports   CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports EmptyMon May 27, 2013 3:33 pm

I change the 3.0 army list a bit especially in light of the Grimoire of True Names conundrum. The 1Malaysia-Chaos-theme is still there with
all the factions of Chaos are represented.


Primary Detachment: Chaos Space Marines

HQ
1. Daemon Prince: Mark of Khorne, Power Armour, Wings, Gift of Mutation, Axe of Blind Fury


TROOPS
1. Cult Champion & 9 Chaos Cultists: Autoguns & 1 Heavy Stubber

2. Cult Champion & 9 Chaos Cultists: Autoguns & 1 Heavy Stubber


FAST ATTACK
1. Helldrake: Baleflamer

2. Helldrake: Baleflamer


HEAVY SUPPORTS
1. 3 Obliterators: Mark of Nurgle, Veterans of The Long War

2. 3 Obliterators: Mark of Nurgle, Veterans of The Long War

3. 3 Obliterators: Mark of Nurgle, Veterans of The Long War


Allied Detachment: Chaos Daemons

HQ
1. Bloodthirster: Warpforge Armour, Lash of Khorne, Axe of Khorne, 2 Greater Rewards, 1 Lesser Reward


TROOP
1. 10 Pink Horrors of Tzeentch


HEAVY SUPPORT
1. Soul Grinder: Daemon of Slaanesh, Baleful Torrent, Harvester Cannon, Iron Claw


Total Points = 1986 (balance 14pts)
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PostSubject: Re: CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports   CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports EmptyMon May 27, 2013 6:21 pm

You should take grimoire on the thirster since he's tougher than other greater daemons as he already come default with armor and axe. Use the grimoire to give DP 3++ as he will probably be in combat often with his daemon weapon. But if I'm u, I rather take CSM tzeentch DP with black mace. He can re-roll saves of 1 giving him better survivability when on 3++ mode.
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PostSubject: Re: CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports   CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports EmptyMon May 27, 2013 7:49 pm

Ehh? Can GoTN affect units from Codex CSM?

Oh my..ya la it can affect enemy or friendly unit with the Daemons USR. It seems that I can boost-up the invul sv of the majority of units in my list!

E.g: Helldrake/Oblits with 3++...AWESOME Twisted Evil cheers !!
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PostSubject: Re: CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports   CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports EmptyTue May 28, 2013 3:59 am

Itu lah pasal.. GoTN memang syok. But you need to pass that 3+ lah kan.
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hahahaha... the thing about playing GoTN, smart opponent will target the bearer first.

you might wanna consider Portalglyph since you lack in troops. somemore you don't have the warp storm that have the chance to spawn new troops.
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PostSubject: Re: CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports   CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports EmptyTue May 28, 2013 7:29 am

The Soulgrinder is very expensive la both point wise & RM wise. Any other options for long range fire support?
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PostSubject: Re: CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports   CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports EmptyTue May 28, 2013 7:51 am

No need lah the soulgrinder.. You have 9 Oblits already. Take something else.
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PostSubject: Re: CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports   CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports EmptyTue May 28, 2013 8:05 am

you might wanna consider Khorne Skull Cannon. Is cheap and it ignore cover. Your DP and BT both don't have frag grenades so Skull Cannon can help you in that area.
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PostSubject: Re: CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports   CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports EmptyTue May 28, 2013 9:19 am

Hmm..Skullcannon ehh?

I can see your point. Apart from giving firing support in the form of S8 AP5 Large Blast Ignore Cover up to 36", it also gives force multiplier to the BT & DP as you mentioned earlier.

It's also a chariot, so can charge & cause D6 impact hits at S7, & regains 1 HP for every unsaved wound caused.

& the icing of the cake is that it doesn't cost as expensive as the Soulgrinder - 45pts cheaper & at the price range of nearly 50% cheaper than the Soulgrinder!

Plus, the model is really bad ass, like a custom Ghost Rider bike Twisted Evil ! Nice!!
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PostSubject: Re: CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports   CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports EmptyTue May 28, 2013 9:26 am

and BS5 Large Blast means you will still get lots of hits even if it scatters.

ever since I have been playing it, it never disappointed me. Smile

of course, soul grinder of slaanesh is more badass. able to provide skyfire S7 shots. i have taken down many flyers with him.
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PostSubject: Re: CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports   CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports EmptyTue May 28, 2013 9:55 am

So far i've taken care of my anti-air problem via vector-striking Helldrake.

The recent one was during my match v/s Kadir. 4 hits causing 1 glance & 2 pen results. No cover sv allowed meaning no jink sv for his Storm Raven.

The 4.0 list gives me 2 units vector striking at S7 & 2 units vector striking at S6. That would have to suffice for now.

I'll play-test both Skull Cannon & Soul Grinder soon. But currently I'm more inclined towards the former mainly due to financial cost-benefit-analysis.


On to list 4.1, unifying the inputs given so far by Joe & Kadir & my own brain, thus the list is now as follows:-

Primary Detachment: Chaos Space Marines

HQ
1. Daemon Prince: Mark of Tzeentch, Power Armour, Wings, Gift of Mutation, The Black Mace, Psyker Lvl.3


TROOPS
1. Cult Champion & 9 Chaos Cultists: Autoguns & 1 Heavy Stubber

2. Cult Champion & 9 Chaos Cultists: Autoguns & 1 Heavy Stubber

3. Cult Champion & 9 Chaos Cultists: Autoguns & 1 Heavy Stubber


FAST ATTACK
1. Helldrake: Baleflamer

2. Helldrake: Baleflamer


HEAVY SUPPORTS
1. 3 Obliterators: Mark of Nurgle, Veterans of The Long War

2. 3 Obliterators: Mark of Nurgle, Veterans of The Long War

3. Chaos Predator: T/L Lascannons, Sponsons Lascannons


Allied Detachment: Chaos Daemons

HQ
1. Bloodthirster: Warpforge Armour, Lash of Khorne, Axe of Khorne, 1 Exalted Reward, 1 Greater Reward


TROOP
1. 10 Daemonettes of Slaanesh: Alluress with 1 Lesser Reward


HEAVY SUPPORT
1. Skull Cannon of Khorne


Total Points = 1999 pts
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Why Daemonettes?
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dia nak muhibah theme like mine. lol
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Lerrr.. Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports   CikguDin's Regular Chaos Army Lists & Battle Reports EmptyTue May 28, 2013 2:05 pm

I've just finished assembling 20 chaos cultists & DP.

I love the cultists models, very nice looking models, very ez to clean & assemble with very minimal plastic cement used. Mine are all armed with autoguns & 2 heavy stubbers. I plan to paint them in a greenish-Nurgle colour scheme just so that they'll be elligible to be used as Plague-zombies if i want to play Typhus.

The plastic DP is also my favourite model to assemble. My only problem is that there's no mace-weapon option: only 2 swords & 1 axe - all right-handed. What did you guys do to represent the Black Mace?

Or for codex Daemons' DP of Tzeentch - how did you equip the model with Staff of Change?

Any ideas that you guys can share?
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