Daemons of DOOOM!!!

Current Daemon lists for ease of reference.

1850pts balanced all comers list:
Fateweaver (Warlord)
Lord of Change
- 1 Exalted Reward (default for Portalglyph unless KP game)
- 1 Greater Reward
- Mastery Level 3
10 Daemonettes
- Instrument
- Icon
10 Plaguebearers
- Instrument
8 Flesh Hounds of Khorne
8 Flesh Hounds of Khorne
8 Flesh Hounds of Khorne
Skull Cannon of Khorne
Soul Grinder
- Daemon of Slaanesh
- Baleful Torrent
Daemon Prince of Tzeentch
- Flight
- Armour
- 1 Exalted Reward (default for Grimoire of True Names)
- 1 Greater Reward
- Mastery Level 3

1850pts Monster bash version 1 list:
Fateweaver (Warlord)
Lord of Change (Mastery level 2, 1 Exalted Reward)
Tzeentch DP (Wings, Armor, Staff of Change, Master Level 1)
Tzeentch DP (Wings, Armor, Staff of Change, Master Level 1)
Tzeentch DP (Wings, Armor, Staff of Change, Master Level 1)
10 Pink Horrors
10 Pink Horrors
CSM Ally:
Tzeentch DP (Wings, Armor, Black Mace)
10 Cultist

1850pts Monster bash version 2 list:
Fateweaver (Warlord)
Lord of Change (Mastery level 2, 1 Exalted Reward, 1 Greater Reward)
Tzeentch DP (Wings, Armor, Staff of Change, Master Level 1)
Tzeentch DP (Wings, Armor, Staff of Change, Master Level 1)
Tzeentch DP (Wings, Armor, Staff of Change, Master Level 1)
10 Pink Horrors
10 Pink Horrors
CSM Ally:
1 Sorcerer
10 Cultist (Flamer)
1 Heldrake (Bale Flamer)

1850pts balanced all comers list version 2:
Fateweaver (Warlord)
Lord of Change
- 1 Lesser Reward
- 2 Greater Rewards
- Mastery Level 3
10 Plaguebearers
- Instrument
10 Daemonettes
- Instrument
- Alluress
8 Flesh Hounds of Khorne
8 Flesh Hounds of Khorne
8 Flesh Hounds of Khorne
Skull Cannon of Khorne
Soul Grinder
- Daemon of Slaanesh
- Baleful Torrent
Daemon Prince of Tzeentch
- Flight
- Armour
- 1 Exalted Reward (default for Grimoire of True Names)
- 1 Greater Reward
- Mastery Level 3

1850pts Screamstar 3 FMC:
1 x Fateweaver (Warlord)
1 x Herald of Tzeentch on Disk
- Master Level 3
- 1 Exalted Locus of Conjuring
1 x Herald of Tzeentch on Disk
- Master Level 3
- 1 Exalted Reward: Default for Grimoire of True Names
10 x Daemonettes of Slaanesh
10 x Plaguebearers of Nurgle
- Plagueridden
10 x Flesh Hounds of Khorne
8 x Screamers of Tzeentch
1 x Daemon Prince of Tzeentch
- Master Level 3
- Daemonic Flight
- Warp-forged Armor
- 2 Greater Rewards
- 1 Lesser Reward
1 x Daemon Prince of Tzeentch
- Master Level 3
- Daemonic Flight
- Warp-forged Armor
- 2 Greater Rewards
- 1 Lesser Reward


1848pts DaemonsCSM 4FMC 1 Flyer Be'lakor Tournament
1 x Fateweaver (Warlord)
1 x Lord of Change
- Mastery Level 3
- 1 Lesser Reward
- 2 Greater Rewards
10 x Daemonettes of Slaanesh
- Instrument of Chaos
10 x Plaguebearers of Nurgle
8 x Flesh Hounds of Khorne
1 x Daemon Prince of Tzeentch
- Master Level 3
- Daemonic Flight
- Warp-forged Armor
- 1 Exalted Reward (Grimoire of True Names)
- 1 Greater Reward
CSM Ally:
Be'lakor
10 x Cultists
1 x Heldrake (Baleflamer)


1850pts Screamstar 3 FMC (v2):
1 x Fateweaver (Warlord)
1 x Herald of Tzeentch on Disk
- Master Level 3
- 1 Lesser Reward
- 1 Exalted Locus of Conjuring
1 x Herald of Tzeentch on Disk
- Master Level 3
- 1 Lesser Reward
10 x Daemonettes of Slaanesh
- Instrument
10 x Plaguebearers of Nurgle
- Instrument
- Plagueridden
8 x Flesh Hounds of Khorne
7 x Screamers of Tzeentch
1 x Daemon Prince of Tzeentch
- Master Level 3
- Daemonic Flight
- Warp-forged Armor
- 1 Exalted Reward
- 1 Greater Reward

CSM Daemon Prince of Tzeentch
- Flight
- Armour
- Spell Familiar
- Gift of Mutation
- Last Memory of the Yuranthos
- Mastery Level 4
10 Cultists

1849pts Daemons-CSM 4FMC Be'lakor
1 x Fateweaver (Warlord)
1 x Lord of Change
- Mastery Level 2
- 1 Lesser Reward
- 2 Greater Rewards
10 x Daemonettes of Slaanesh
- Instrument
- Alluress
10 x Plaguebearers of Nurgle
10 x Flesh Hounds of Khorne
10 x Flesh Hounds of Khorne
1 x Daemon Prince of Tzeentch
- Master Level 3
- Daemonic Flight
- Warp-forged Armor
- 1 Exalted Reward (Grimoire of True Names)
- 1 Greater Reward
CSM Ally:
Be'lakor
10 x Cultists

The new Flying Monstrous Creature rule is amazing!
Upon deepstrike, I get to choose what mode the Flying MC is on.
That means, we can get Hard to Hit rule upon arriving!
With that in mind, this will be my new 6th ed list;

HQ
1 Fateweaver
1 Bloodthirster w Blessing of the Blood God, Unholy Might

ELITE
6 Fiends of Slaanesh w Unholy Might

TROOP
7 Plaguebearers w Icon
7 Plaguebearers w Icon

HEAVY
1 Daemon Prince - Mark of Tzeentch, Bolt of Tzeentch, Breath of Chaos
1 Daemon Prince - Mark of Tzeentch, Bolt of Tzeentch, Breath of Chaos
1 Daemon Prince - Mark of Tzeentch, Bolt of Tzeentch, Breath of Chaos

Total: 1748pts


Took out bloodcrushers since hellblades are AP3 now. Suck!
Keeping the Fiends of Slaanesh since beast ignore difficult terrain due to Move Through Cover, ignore dangerous terrain test. I can deepstrike them into area terrain with ease.

There you have it. 5 Flying MC zooming around the board. Bloodthirster will fly and engage the nastiest unit.
Fateweaver and bodyguards (DPs) will fly around killing stuff with their stuff. Ngek ngek ngek ngek.

are the tzeentch DP flying too?

Pergh.. nasty!

yea yea... FAQ says the flight upgrade change it to flying mc. hehehehe

maybe test this out this weekend.

Just tried the list vs Edward at Alvin's shop just now.
He played BA ally with GK (Draigo and 5 Paladdins). WTF right? lol

Anyway, just to share some game exp here trying out the Flying MC rules:

- THEY ROCK! Edward had hard time taking down even 1 MC with shooting when he has 4 Psycannons and 4 Missile Launchers shooting at 1 MC.
- After deepstrike, they can declare they are in swooping mode. So instantly getting invulnerability to assaults even though only inches away from enemy.
- Vector strike was fun as BloodThirsters flying around dealing D3+1 S8 AP3 hits.
- There is still a restriction on flying MC as they can only pivot 90 degrees before swooping again, is hard to fly back if enemies start to go around them.


Question though for Vector Strike. Let's say I vector strike with my MC and dealt 3 wounds. Vector Strike is resolved at the end of movement phase. So where are those wounds allocated to the enemy unit?
- To the front of the unit?
- Or nearest to my MC which is now at the back of the unit?

I asked the folks on Warseer, they say resolve the Vector Strike from the front where the Flying first fly over.

Sounds interesting! Need to get air support! Suddenly Vendettas look good on Skyfire mode

yea, flyers are now very powerful. IG Vendettas list rocks.

the new squadron rule helps as well. if immobilized, is no longer wrecked but can be left out and treated as another unit. so you can still fire with the immobilized Vendetta! (unless of course you go on Zooom mode and get immobilized la)

I really need to get my ass off the ground and finish my 2 year old AirCav project ...

Found that the Fiends is even more fragile with Overwatch rule and hard to get 4+ cover saves. So taking out to put in more troops.

HQ
1 Fateweaver
1 Bloodthirster w Blessing of the Blood God, Unholy Might

TROOP
9 Pink Horrors w Changeling, Bolt of Tzeentch
7 Plaguebearers w Icon
5 Plaguebearers
5 Plaguebearers

HEAVY
1 Daemon Prince - Mark of Tzeentch, Bolt of Tzeentch, Breath of Chaos
1 Daemon Prince - Mark of Tzeentch, Bolt of Tzeentch, Breath of Chaos
1 Daemon Prince - Mark of Tzeentch, Bolt of Tzeentch, Breath of Chaos

Total: 1746pts


Now with 9 units, I can have 5 of my FMC put on 1st wave. Well, if i don't get the 1st wave, oh well. DIE horribly! lolz

I went back to Penang and found I have a LoC model.
Then was thinking of swapping the BloodThirster for a Lord Of Change since the BT always need to be stuck in combat to be effective and with Challenges, the BT usually get tied down.


HQ
1 Fateweaver
1 Lord Of Change - Boon of Mutation, Master of Sorcery, Breath of Chaos, We Are Legion (most exp chicken ever!)

TROOP
9 Pink Horrors w Changeling
7 Plaguebearers w Icon
5 Plaguebearers


HEAVY
1 Daemon Prince - Mark of Tzeentch, Bolt of Tzeentch, Breath of Chaos
1 Daemon Prince - Mark of Tzeentch, Bolt of Tzeentch, Breath of Chaos
1 Daemon Prince - Mark of Tzeentch, Bolt of Tzeentch, Breath of Chaos

Total: 1746pts


Now I will have 2 chickens of death Swooping around causing carnage! )

Dr-DOOOM!!! wrote:

I asked the folks on Warseer, they say resolve the Vector Strike from the front where the Flying first fly over.

didn't see your question earlier in the post... but just an opinion: i thought we should apply Random Allocation as per pg 15 when you're not sure where the direction of the attack came from?

ooo.. thanks for resolving it.

dann.toh wrote:

Dr-DOOOM!!! wrote:

I asked the folks on Warseer, they say resolve the Vector Strike from the front where the Flying first fly over.

didn't see your question earlier in the post... but just an opinion: i thought we should apply Random Allocation as per pg 15 when you're not sure where the direction of the attack came from?

We are sure about it when we use vector strike, just imagine the blood thirster diving towards the helpless space marines at incredible speed, axe swiping and probably grabbing one for lunch later. I'm pretty certain the guys at the back would be seeing their brothers getting slaughtered and prompt them to dodge from it. Also, vector strikes are resolved as if they had shot a shooting weapon.

If that's the case, remove the front model or the back model which is now the closest model to the Bloodthirster landed behind?

The bloodthirster never landed, it's still swooping. Just use your imagination and make life easier la, I would say the MC swipes the space marines when it comes down from the front.

It's not really logical to say the models at the back dies just because it's where the MC ended up at.

Yesterday tried my Daemons of DOOOM!!! vs Marcus's Space Marines ally with Eldar. It was 1750pts.
He has a Stormtalon and I couldn't take it down with my shooting and relying on S5 vector strike doesn't really help either.
And since we will be playing more on 1500 pts and the Lord Of Change is super exp, I'm dropping him in favor of a BloodThirster.

Below will by my Daemons of DOOOM!!! 1500pts list.


HQ
BloodThirster - Unholy Might, Blessing of the Blood God, Death Strike
Fateweaver

TROOP
7 Plaguebearer
5 Plaguebearer

HEAVY
Tzeentch Daemon Prince - Breath of Chaos, Bolt of Tzeentch, Daemonic Flight
Tzeentch Daemon Prince - Breath of Chaos, Bolt of Tzeentch, Daemonic Flight
Tzeentch Daemon Prince - Breath of Chaos, Bolt of Tzeentch, Daemonic Flight

TOTAL: 1498 points



Now that I have a S8 Bloodthirsters flying around, shouldn't be a problem taking down flyers alike with his Vector Strike. (i think)

Another variant to test out, using 1 Slaanesh DP to Pavane a unit into a nice juicy target for breath.

HQ
BloodThirster - Unholy Might, Blessing of the Blood God
Fateweaver

TROOP
7 Plaguebearer - Instrument of Chaos
5 Plaguebearer - Instrument of Chaos

HEAVY
Tzeentch Daemon Prince - Breath of Chaos, Bolt of Tzeentch, Daemonic Flight
Tzeentch Daemon Prince - Breath of Chaos, Bolt of Tzeentch, Daemonic Flight
Slaanesh Daemon Prince - Breath of Chaos, Pavane of Slaanesh, Daemonic Flight, Iron Hide

TOTAL: 1498 points

wei that scary wei 5 big dudes. madness la wei.

not as scary as your 3 squads of long fangs la.

all i need to screw up my day is getting dawn of war for deployment. Now the deamon T 5 or 6

you do know that unless you got Skyfire rule, you can only Snap Fire my big dudes flying around right?

that the prob.. all the old codex dont have skyfire.. funny.

Re-tweaking the list to include the new Screamers. They are now super buffed!

DPs will be downgraded to normal and take Iron Hide (3+ AS) since most of the AA weapons are AP4. This is to add on their survivability. And since will be Vector Striking most of the time, added Unholy Might (+1 S) to them. At least S6 vector strikers can hurt AV12 flyers.



HQ
BloodThirster - Unholy Might, Blessing of the Blood God
Fateweaver

TROOP
5 Plaguebearer
5 Plaguebearer
5 Plaguebearer

FAST
3 Screamers
3 Screamers
3 Screamers

HEAVY
Daemon Prince - Breath of Chaos, Unholy Might, Daemonic Flight
Daemon Prince - Breath of Chaos, Unholy Might, Daemonic Flight

TOTAL: 1498 points