| My first Ranger list from the new book | |
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spunkybass Major
Posts : 800 Honor Points : 5562 Join date : 2012-02-21
| Subject: My first Ranger list from the new book Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:59 am | |
| All in all, this is a very interesting new codex. On balance, I like it. Here's my first non-vehicle Ranger list from the new book:
HQ: Illic Nightspear Farseer
ELITES: Striking Scorpions (10) - Exarch w scorpion's claw, crushing blow, monster hunter
TROOPS: Pathfinders (5) Pathfinders (5) Rangers (5) Rangers (5) Rangers (5) Rangers (5)
FAST ATTACK: Warp Spiders (8 ) - Exarch w twin-linked death spinners, fast shot Swooping Hawks (6) - Exarch w hawk's talon
HEAVY SUPPORT: Dark Reapers (6) - Exarch w missile launcher, flakk missiles, fast shot Wraithlord - brightlance Wraithlord - brightlance | |
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CikguDin Sergeant
Posts : 508 Honor Points : 5218 Join date : 2012-02-24 Age : 47
| Subject: Re: My first Ranger list from the new book Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:53 am | |
| Boss, W-Lords can now take 2 Brightlances! | |
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spunkybass Major
Posts : 800 Honor Points : 5562 Join date : 2012-02-21
| Subject: Re: My first Ranger list from the new book Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:14 am | |
| Can. BUT ... 1) don't want to convert, 2) mahal points | |
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spunkybass Major
Posts : 800 Honor Points : 5562 Join date : 2012-02-21
| Subject: Re: My first Ranger list from the new book Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:07 am | |
| Finally tried out this army against Faizal's Space Wolves. It was a blast! Freaking amazing. Some highlights:
1. Warp Spiders are MVP few times over. Their extreme mobility and the new mono rules make them all round killers. I played them a bit wrongly last night, but it did not really change the fact that these guys are amazing aspects.
2. Dark Reapers are the another killer aspect. The ability to mive and shot makes a huge difference, as the guys were able to reposition as and when needed. Illic was directing their fire and gaining the ability to split fire allowed my Exarch to pick off dreadnoughts while the rest of his squad shot up marines.
3. Illic himself as a shooter was rather underwhelming in last night's game. He only shot once and failed to wound. We'll try this again.
4. Striking Scorpions are amazing! They've been my close combat of choice since 6th Ed, but they got so much better now. Fleet really helps, and the new mandiblaster rules really works a charm. They were unlucky last night as the the Long Fangs they were charging managed to score 5 krak missile hits out of 6 over watch shots, but in combat they were awesome. My Exarch has always got a Scorpion's Claw on him and now he's a challenge killing machine!
5. I like the new Farseer. He was running around w Guide, Fortune and Eldritch Storm. I could never cast all three in the same turn, but the extended range of guide and fortune is sweet. Eldritch Storm's haywire ability managed to cause a penetrating hit in a dreadnought. Nice.
6. Rangers - I got used very fast to the fact that their rifles are now normal sniper rifles. But the points discounts make me less irritated when they get gunned down.
7. Pathfinders are really really awesome in this incarnation. Though they lost the AP1 on their rifles, stealth and shroud, and sharpshoot makes them tactical multipliers. I was able to pick off power fist dudes, plasma gunners and a marine who happened to be standing near an objective. Coolness.
8. My Swooping Hawks were untested. They showed off their new deep striking prowess by landing nearly behind a building amidst a whole bunch of other Eldar, but their failed charge (needed a 9, rolled double 1s and the reroll didn't help) caused them to be sitting ducks in front of a dakka dread. We'll try again next time.
9. The Wraithlords were quite ineffective last night. I should learn to barrel them forwards and into assault instead of slowly trying to shoot as well. I'll try these guys again.
Totally looking forward to a second round with the new Ranger Force!
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CikguDin Sergeant
Posts : 508 Honor Points : 5218 Join date : 2012-02-24 Age : 47
| Subject: Re: My first Ranger list from the new book Sat Jun 15, 2013 5:05 am | |
| Yup, the Spiders are super awesome this time. Imagine all delivering S7 shots against most light/medium vehicles = deadlines. But to me, they are competing with other interesting units in the Fast Atk slots, especially Flyers & Vypers. Has anybody tested the Hemlock Wraithfighter yet? The auto-default casting of Terrify is very nasty since it removes all enemy Fearless spc rule within a certain distance & forces them to make immediate morale check. Thats nasty! Imagine: Abaddon running away... | |
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Paxter Admin
Posts : 1444 Honor Points : 6367 Join date : 2012-02-17
| Subject: Re: My first Ranger list from the new book Sat Jun 15, 2013 5:33 am | |
| Only prob din, is you got to be almost above them to do so. | |
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spunkybass Major
Posts : 800 Honor Points : 5562 Join date : 2012-02-21
| Subject: Re: My first Ranger list from the new book Sat Jun 15, 2013 5:38 am | |
| Didn't use the spiders against vehicles last night, I'm sure they are awesome. I have a feeling they trump vypers, especially my expensive scatter laser/shrui-cannon ones, but we'll see | |
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CikguDin Sergeant
Posts : 508 Honor Points : 5218 Join date : 2012-02-24 Age : 47
| Subject: Re: My first Ranger list from the new book Sat Jun 15, 2013 5:56 am | |
| @Pax: Ya la..The Hemlock has quite a potential, but its rules design leave a really bad taste. On top of that, its heavy D-Cannon is only a small Blast weapon? That is so sad. I was hoping they'd be a torrent-type of distort weapon. | |
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LordAK Lieutenant
Posts : 1957 Honor Points : 6659 Join date : 2012-02-20
| Subject: Re: My first Ranger list from the new book Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:43 am | |
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- managed to score 5 krak missile hits out of 6 over watch shots,
. Scorpions Claw is the best! Sad Autarch cannot take it hahaha.. The Spider Exarch.. give the Rapid Fire Stargun (or something.. cant remember) lagi best bro. Low AP can almost guarantee 3 kills with Fast Shot. If lucky can Pin opponent summore. | |
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spunkybass Major
Posts : 800 Honor Points : 5562 Join date : 2012-02-21
| Subject: Re: My first Ranger list from the new book Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:59 am | |
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sundalbolong Recruit
Posts : 55 Honor Points : 4693 Join date : 2012-02-26 Age : 50 Location : macam di KK
| Subject: Re: My first Ranger list from the new book Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:37 am | |
| - Quote :
- ELITES:
Exarch w scorpion's claw, crushing blow, monster hunter Ini exarch strike on str7 or str8? | |
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LordAK Lieutenant
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| Subject: Re: My first Ranger list from the new book Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:08 am | |
| Strength 7 bro.. at initiative 5. He will defeat any Squad Leader in challenges. | |
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spunkybass Major
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| Subject: Re: My first Ranger list from the new book Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:16 am | |
| Sorry ah .... Initiative 6 | |
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sundalbolong Recruit
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| Subject: Re: My first Ranger list from the new book Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:36 am | |
| Hmm str7 boleh juga la dia swing ni wraith knight | |
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LordAK Lieutenant
Posts : 1957 Honor Points : 6659 Join date : 2012-02-20
| Subject: Re: My first Ranger list from the new book Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:08 am | |
| Yes can.. but wounding on 5+. Why send them. I would give that task to Rangers!
@Spunky: Ya lah.. Initiative 6!! Good against some ICs even. | |
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Dr-DOOOM!!! Lieutenant
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| Subject: Re: My first Ranger list from the new book Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:36 am | |
| Exarchs with claws are super gay now. lol | |
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dif2find Major
Posts : 843 Honor Points : 5559 Join date : 2012-02-21 Age : 46 Location : In your mind
| Subject: Re: My first Ranger list from the new book Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:51 am | |
| that is sooo awesome str 7 .. still ap 2 right. strike at INI 6... awesome.
where got gay wei... its supergay..hhahahahah | |
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sundalbolong Recruit
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| Subject: Re: My first Ranger list from the new book Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:02 pm | |
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dann.toh Major
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| Subject: Re: My first Ranger list from the new book Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:22 pm | |
| ala... for almost the same amount of points, a klaivex has also the same attacks, same ini, but not as strong. So whatever the case, scorpion Exarch/Klaivex will kill each other and any other sergeant.
But the rest of the incubi will kill scorpions (or termies) with Ap2 blades @ I5
Gay ape? gay ape? | |
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sundalbolong Recruit
Posts : 55 Honor Points : 4693 Join date : 2012-02-26 Age : 50 Location : macam di KK
| Subject: Re: My first Ranger list from the new book Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:58 pm | |
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- Gay ape? gay ape?
lol | |
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cookie_yip Moderator
Posts : 474 Honor Points : 5162 Join date : 2012-02-19
| Subject: Re: My first Ranger list from the new book Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:21 pm | |
| Why is the claw S7 and not S8 with crushing blow? | |
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dann.toh Major
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| Subject: Re: My first Ranger list from the new book Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:58 pm | |
| modifiers are multiplied first then added/subtracted. Pg 2 of the rulebook. So S3 x2 = 6 + 1 = 7 | |
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spunkybass Major
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| Subject: Re: My first Ranger list from the new book Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:21 pm | |
| Vs MC can give monster hunter - reroll to wound. If you have 5 pts extra | |
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cookie_yip Moderator
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| Subject: Re: My first Ranger list from the new book Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:25 pm | |
| @dann: was looking for that high n low.. Thanks! | |
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LordAK Lieutenant
Posts : 1957 Honor Points : 6659 Join date : 2012-02-20
| Subject: Re: My first Ranger list from the new book Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:53 pm | |
| @Spunky : 5 points is cheap. SW gets that at 10 or 15 pts tak ingat. And only ICs can take it. | |
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