Longinus Initiative 1500pts

I agree with Lord AK... It is hard to take them fliers down... even with 4 TL Autocannon... and the flyer didn't even have to zoom

Its just a argument of Power vs ROF. Nothing wrong with either one. Just take whichever one you fancy.

Yes i have tried rolling Quad Gun vs AV12 and its not very reliable but i am sticking to it cause it hits more targets on both Ground and Air.

Well flakk is on the horizons so rejoice brothers of battle...

it seems like everyone's adapting to my army hahaha...
my win rate is going down as more AP2s and high-rate of fire guns emerge.


I highly recommend a Flyer if you have access to one. In all my games vs a quad gun, none of them was able to mess up my game like 1 STORMTALON in today's game against Soo Kai!

On the turn it arrived it made 1 Stormraven lose 2 hull points, a weapon lost, locked vector, and forced me to use evade!

When it came around again, it vector locked the other raven! Unbelievable!

You didnt shoot the Stormtalon? O.o

It was the angle... it strafed both the Ravens, so I could not circle it without hovering, and if I hovered I'll need a 6 to hit it. So I just focussed on providing air support.

He was smart... after I put 1 Raven into ongoing reserve, he did the same to his talon the following turn - so his Talon can react to the Raven.

I did manage to fire at it once, but only managed to crack 1 Hull Point as he evaded the Pen Hit.

Must try vs my daemons yo! )

Okay shows you the difference between going 1st and 2nd. Going 1st gets you First Blood easier but dogfighting wise its worst because people can react to how you place your Flyers. Interesting but i am still on the fence on getting a Stormtalon.

I'm not looking fwd to fighting your FMC spam man...

Kill the Bloodthirster and your life will be so much easier. S6 vs AV12 Stormravens hahahaha have fun killing them.

That's why u need to play with 5-6 flyers hehehe..(u can get up to 10 if u r IG!)

haha, not as intimidated with Daemon Princes as I used to be. Dante can stand up to a DP - less chance of hitting/wounding, but more likely to save with a Priest around.

However a Bloodthirster is still a menace to take down... I need the Sanguinor!

Haha, my latest list don't have bloodthirster. So much easier for u to beat la. )

Can the Stormraven zoom & fire its t/l plasma cannons?

yes, you can fire any blast weapons from a flyer but cannot not be targeted at flyers or flying monstrous creatures.

Thanks Joe.

Dann: U said that if da Stormraven is in 'hover' mode, then it can only hit other flyers/FMCs at 6+/BS1? I thought all flyers have Skyfire & Interceptor rules as default?

CikguDin wrote:

Thanks Joe.

Dann: U said that if da Stormraven is in 'hover' mode, then it can only hit other flyers/FMCs at 6+/BS1? I thought all flyers have Skyfire & Interceptor rules as default?

All Flyers have Skyfire (I don't think they have Interceptor rules)... BUT when they 'hover', they are treated exactly like a Fast Skimmer, which doesn't have the Skyfire rules.

not "exactly treated". they change their type from flyer to fast skimmer.

Dr-DOOOM!!! wrote:

not "exactly treated". they change their type from flyer to fast skimmer.

Actually the exact wording, in bold, in the rulebook is:
"...it is treated exactly as a Fast Skimmer."

ok lor. you have the book. you win. lol

Dr-DOOOM!!! wrote:

ok lor. you have the book. you win. lol

hahaha just messing with you joe, cuz you've done this to me before

anyway, that's why I can't 'skyfire'.

you gonna go forge on sunday? want to have a test run with your list.

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CikguDin wrote:
Thanks Joe.

Dann: U said that if da Stormraven is in 'hover' mode, then it can only hit other flyers/FMCs at 6+/BS1? I thought all flyers have Skyfire & Interceptor rules as default?

All Flyers have Skyfire (I don't think they have Interceptor rules)... BUT when they 'hover', they are treated exactly like a Fast Skimmer, which doesn't have the Skyfire rules.

Oh.. betullah.. good catch here Dann.

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haha, not as intimidated with Daemon Princes as I used to be.

Not to mention.. their vector strike count as AP3. So no +1 to result.

So Soo Kai is well versed in the art of dog fighting. I need to have a game with him.

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the art of dog fighting.

Hahaha!! Sound like a new kung-fu school : Soo Kai Mountain Art of Dog Fighting !

I'm reminiscing one of the Shaolin Soccer episode..

"Shaolin kung fu hou yeah!!"

"Chan hou yeah!!"

"Shaolin kung fu hou kan!!"

"Chan hou kan!"

"Waagh!! Waagh!! Waaghh!!"

....then the bottle started started flying kah kah kah!!!

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All Flyers have Skyfire (I don't think they have Interceptor rules)... BUT when they 'hover', they are treated exactly like a Fast Skimmer, which doesn't have the Skyfire rules.

So, no Interceptor rules? Does this mean that when flyers zooming, if they want to shoot at non-flyer/FMC targets, they have to do it at BS1?

Interceptor rules allow you to shoot at an enemy unit on the turn they arrive from reserve (if I rmbr correctly), so you see it on those bastions and quad guns.

Flyers, when zooming, may choose to use the Skyfire rules.