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LordAK Lieutenant
Posts : 1957 Honor Points : 6680 Join date : 2012-02-20
| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:40 am | |
| Oblits sure is good. But not so WE lah kan. I did take them sometimes count as IW mercenaries. Came up with something different yesterday. Quite fun lah I think.
Kharn The Betrayer Bloodthirster | 1 Greater, 1 Exalted 8 Berserkers | PFist (Rhino | Dozer, Dirge) 8 Berserkers | PFist (Rhino | Dozer, Dirge) 20 Bloodletters | Champion (1 Lesser), Standard Bearer (Magic Banner) 15 Bloodhounds of Khorne BaleDrake Tri-Lass Predator Tri-Lass Predator Total : 1849
The list got all the element that I found missing in usual WE list. Fast decoy/harassment unit and a FMC that can stand toe to toe against a Wraithknight (and possibly Instakilling the damn thing) in combat.
Will it work? I need another playtest. | |
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dann.toh Major
Posts : 776 Honor Points : 5484 Join date : 2012-02-21
| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:28 am | |
| I think your bloodletters got a better chance against it... 20x3 on a charge kan? 3+ to hit, 6 to wound, only need 6 6s. | |
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LordAK Lieutenant
Posts : 1957 Honor Points : 6680 Join date : 2012-02-20
| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:42 am | |
| 20x2 bro on the charge. Bloodletters come with 1 base attacks only now. Sad.
I think the Bloodthirster is better. 4 Smash (S10) attacks on the charge. Brace for the counter. Stay. Kill the damn thing in enemy turn. Consolidate. Go to next unit.
If I wanna kill it in one turn. Then maybe Khorne DP with Black Mace would be better. 6+D6 attacks Fleshbane. No need to Smash. Sure can kill in one go. | |
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dann.toh Major
Posts : 776 Honor Points : 5484 Join date : 2012-02-21
| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:29 am | |
| 1 BASE ATTACK?! Sheeeeeeeet...
But Khorne DP will die at the same time too... And that's assuming the WKnight doesn't carry a 5+ inv.
Stick to Bloodthirster la. | |
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LordAK Lieutenant
Posts : 1957 Honor Points : 6680 Join date : 2012-02-20
| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:00 am | |
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- But Khorne DP will die at the same time too... And that's assuming the WKnight doesn't carry a 5+ inv.
No lah.. DP is much faster at I8. About the 5++ inv. Everyone I talked to seems to favour the basic setup. Cheaper and who wouldn't want 2 S10 shots at effective range of 48 inch kan. But DP will still die on two occasions: (I) When it stupidly assaulted the Wraithknight in cover. (ii) when he rolled 1 for Daemon Weapon number of attacks. Risky.. - Quote :
- Stick to Bloodthirster la.
True.. | |
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dann.toh Major
Posts : 776 Honor Points : 5484 Join date : 2012-02-21
| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:17 am | |
| hahaha i was actually thinking of one more occasion... the wknight rolls a 6 for his overwatch to hit... | |
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LordAK Lieutenant
Posts : 1957 Honor Points : 6680 Join date : 2012-02-20
| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:45 am | |
| Oh.. yalah. And if he rolled 6 to wound. Even the BT wouldn't stand a chance hahaha.. Unlikely, but can still happen.
Eldar has always been the bane to my WE since the days of GC. Those days it was Nik Kamal, Din, Dann and the lost kid Karim who taught me the horrors of Eldar. But I somehow forgotten that fact because no one in HF ever played them anymore (at least, not against my WE). If I'm not wrong, the last game my WE had against Eldar was like 3-4 years back against Sukai. The terror of Eldar escapes me for several years since then.
Now the Eldar is back. And they are damn powerfull. My WE knows fear once again. | |
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Dr-DOOOM!!! Lieutenant
Posts : 1658 Honor Points : 6400 Join date : 2012-02-20
| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:57 am | |
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CikguDin Sergeant
Posts : 508 Honor Points : 5239 Join date : 2012-02-24 Age : 47
| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:03 pm | |
| That's why don't engage the W-Knight in cc - very risky. Now u know why I'm fielding 8 Lascannon shots in Turn 1 & 6 T/L Lascannon shots in Turn 2.
Kalau tak mati jugak by end of Turn 2, I've got nothing to say la.
P.S: The only DP I'm willing to engage the W-Knight in cc would be Codex Daemons' DP of Nurgle with Balesword - Poison (4+), Instant Kill. | |
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sundalbolong Recruit
Posts : 55 Honor Points : 4714 Join date : 2012-02-26 Age : 50 Location : macam di KK
| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:53 pm | |
| 18 firedragon 3 hunter 3 prism cukup ka bunuh wraithknight? | |
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sundalbolong Recruit
Posts : 55 Honor Points : 4714 Join date : 2012-02-26 Age : 50 Location : macam di KK
| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:59 pm | |
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- That's why don't engage the W-Knight in cc - very risky. Now u know why I'm fielding 8 Lascannon shots in Turn 1 & 6 T/L Lascannon shots in Turn 2.
Yang penting dapat 1st blood hehe | |
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LordAK Lieutenant
Posts : 1957 Honor Points : 6680 Join date : 2012-02-20
| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:28 pm | |
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- BT is I9 la
I know that.. but why ah Joe? After talking with Din. I think I'd swap Kharn with a normal Khorne Lord with BlindFury, BurningBrand, Aura, and Vets. He costed the same as Kharn so no need to change the list lah. | |
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CikguDin Sergeant
Posts : 508 Honor Points : 5239 Join date : 2012-02-24 Age : 47
| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:14 pm | |
| If u can find that xtra 10pts, your Khorne Lord will have 4++ instead of 5++. That 1++ difference means a whole lot of deal between life & death. | |
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LordAK Lieutenant
Posts : 1957 Honor Points : 6680 Join date : 2012-02-20
| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:04 am | |
| Easy.. removed PFist from Berserker Unit 2. PSword is enough lah. I have all the necessary models already, using Chaos Warhounds as Bloodhounds. Currently painting all the models in the list. Readying for the next fun time at HF BTW, I'm sure every chaos player has their version of monster list. Here is mine: Khorne Prince | Fly, Armor, Burning Brand Khorne Prince | Fly, Armor, Black Mace Bloodthirster | 1 Greater, 1 Exalted (Grimoire) 10 Cultist 10 Cultist 10 Bloodletters BaleDrake BaleDrake BaleDrake Khorne Prince | 1 Greater, 1 Exalted (Portalglyph except in KP games) ADL Total : 1,84X pts | |
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Dr-DOOOM!!! Lieutenant
Posts : 1658 Honor Points : 6400 Join date : 2012-02-20
| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:36 am | |
| Wah... lagi more terror than my monster list. got 7 flyers! lol
come! let's fight monster list vs monster list! | |
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LordAK Lieutenant
Posts : 1957 Honor Points : 6680 Join date : 2012-02-20
| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:13 am | |
| Your Monster list is more awesome bro.. | |
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LordAK Lieutenant
Posts : 1957 Honor Points : 6680 Join date : 2012-02-20
| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:15 am | |
| My new WE-Khorne Daemons ally list survived 2 try-games versus Necrons and came up the winner. Now I'm fine tuning my Necrons for the 3rd game.
Learned a lot about using the Daemonic ally effectively. Bloodthirster is the gamewinner in both games. But the best unit is the Flesh Hounds.. just give them 3+ invul and let them loose!!
The Khorne Lord didn't perform very well however. 1st game : He fought Obyron. Rolled 6 for BlindFury but rolled badly for To Hit and To Wound rolls. Obyron killed him with his Cleaving Counterblow (3 + 6 additional attacks). 2nd game : Burning Brand is weak against Necrons. can't go through that T4 or maybe it was just my roll. I'm sure he will be good against eldar. Got killed by a Doom Scythe hahaha.. | |
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Dr-DOOOM!!! Lieutenant
Posts : 1658 Honor Points : 6400 Join date : 2012-02-20
| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:23 am | |
| yup, the hounds are the real game winner. that's why i have 24 of them in my list. and yet my opponents kept thinking the threats and the power cheese are from the FMCs which is actually a diversion as i get my 24 hounds engaged in combat with weak important units in turn 2. | |
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LordAK Lieutenant
Posts : 1957 Honor Points : 6680 Join date : 2012-02-20
| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:18 am | |
| With Scouts redeployment and being beast unit, they are very good Fast Attack unit. With 30 wounds to play with and chances at 3++, they can work wonders - Quote :
- and yet my opponents kept thinking the threats and the power cheese are from the FMCs
I don't think they are far wrong there. FMCs are powerhouse. It's just that Flesh Hounds are good, very-very good at their role. | |
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LordAK Lieutenant
Posts : 1957 Honor Points : 6680 Join date : 2012-02-20
| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:34 am | |
| 3 games versus Eldar. 3 TA result.
Damn Eldar are too strong in firepower for my traditional WE to close in. The 6th transport rules doesn't help either. I need to come up with something. It's a hard time for my WE. | |
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CikguDin Sergeant
Posts : 508 Honor Points : 5239 Join date : 2012-02-24 Age : 47
| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:04 am | |
| I'm also have been thinking how to modify my CSM list/tactic to be prepared if & when I'll be facing the Eldars.
FMCs are an option, but I doubt they can withstand all those shots from the WS. The WS can just move 12" away & snapfire min 8 & max 14 shots at the FMCs. If they are grounded, they r as good as dead.
Maybe i'll be taking Lvl.3 DP of Tzeentch for shooty spell & hoping to get Iron Arm &/or Endurance from Biomancy spells.
Even with 8 Oblits, they'd have a difficult time taking the WS down. I'd have to concentrate my firepowers to take it down 1 at a time.
Also, maybe its time to consider taking Hades Autocannon instead of Baleflamer - better odds penetrating the AV12 compared to the S6 flamer.
If u are having trouble facing just 3 Serpents, imagine facing Quek with his Serpent-spam list!! The horror of it!! | |
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dann.toh Major
Posts : 776 Honor Points : 5484 Join date : 2012-02-21
| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:11 am | |
| Really have to get more games in... am already feeling how 'alien' the new Eldar are... And i used to play them -.-
Actually, a WS is vulnerable after it shoots cuz it sacrifices its shields for the shots. | |
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LordAK Lieutenant
Posts : 1957 Honor Points : 6680 Join date : 2012-02-20
| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:55 am | |
| You'll gonna love them bro. I'm sure will if I play Eldar - Quote :
- Actually, a WS is vulnerable after it shoots cuz it sacrifices its shields for the shots.
That is assumption. Play 1st bro. Then you know. The fact is, Din never kept the shields. But a WS survived all but 1 Lasscannon shots I aim at it. | |
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dann.toh Major
Posts : 776 Honor Points : 5484 Join date : 2012-02-21
| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:58 am | |
| i know, i got kena juga... that's why i was able to dark lance one that didn't have its shields and... shaken it. | |
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CikguDin Sergeant
Posts : 508 Honor Points : 5239 Join date : 2012-02-24 Age : 47
| Subject: Re: Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:17 am | |
| Its the cursed holofield that makes the difference. Used to be available to the other Grav-Tanks only, but now even the Serpents can be equipped with it!
3+ cover behind ruins, 2+ cover with the Conceal spell!! Gila cheeze! U move 1" pun cukup la to claim the benefit - then your Serpents will change from being mediocre skimmer into damn tough nuts to crack. | |
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