Lord AK's Legion of The Blood God

Had 2 games today.
 
1st game versus Shaun's DA in Relic game. He amended the list a bit from yesterday.
i. WE goes 1st but failed to claim FB. DA got FB by destroying my LR.
ii. Shaun's 2+ saves and Feel No Pain was very awfull. And it happened a lot!! My saves on the other hand, are very good. My Helldrake saves all pen/glance it suffered.
iii. Both Raptors mishaps when they 1st drops in. But they were lucky to get back to ongoing reserves. When they came back, both was right on the dot where I want them!!
iv. Lord got several boons in this game --> 3 were useless on him, but one was Eternal Warrior.
v. The game ended when the Chaos Lord killed the last Deathwing Terminators and I still have around 8 Berserkers to secure the Relic.
vi. It was fun, but could have been better if Shaun didn't have such a bad luck with his saves.
 
2nd game was Scouring against Tau-Eldar.
i. My LR with Dozer Blade immobilised while moving through terrain. 
ii. I thought Wave Serpent and the Wraithknight (I have nothing that can took out that in my list) was the worst. Then the Dark Reapers start shooting.. 9 shots TL at S8 with Tank Hunter that ignores cover. Once I learned that, I know I cannot play this game already. Not without any LOS blocking terrain in between our armies.
iii. There's nothing I can do at all comes my turn 3. So I conceded.
iv. I didn't see it coming. Seriously. It wasn't fun at all.
 
You guys watch out. Tau-Dar is real good

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Then the Dark Reapers start shooting.. 9 shots TL at S8 with Tank Hunter that ignores cover.

Care to elaborate how this came to be? Can all members of Reapers take S8 shots? Used to be the Exarch only..check your dex pls.

& the ignore cover part - marker lights?

P.S: Its rock-paper-scissor la..against your WE memang sakit la since your WE lacks lascannon shots & 2+ armour.

Maybe against my CSM ada chance kut since I have a lot of T5 & 2+ armour & long range shots.

Ya kau main la 30 dark reaper baru best

@Din : Now all Reapers got S8 shots. Tau Commander and his gadgets. He gives Twin-linked and Tank Hunters and Ignores Cover I think. Because the krak shots don't ignore cover, only jink saves.

S8 missiles for reapers are expensive though, plus 8 pts each.

Hahaha...Now we know what's our target priority la kan? 

I doubt Tau-Eldar player will field more than 2 units of Reapers due to their high pt cost & wanting to take W-Knights, Broadsides...etc.

At least, for Loyalist armies, they can take allied DA to overcome this situation a bit (PFG for 6" radius of 4++ bubble). 

But, for the renegades, its time to really up the ante a bit..maybe by taking more 2+ armor &/or AV14..etc

LordAK wrote:

@Din : Now all Reapers got S8 shots. Tau Commander and his gadgets. He gives Twin-linked and Tank Hunters and Ignores Cover I think. Because the krak shots don't ignore cover, only jink saves.

Only problem for the tau commander you either go full support to give his unit twinlink and ignore cover OR go Tank hunter mode you cant do both

I think its the Puretide Chip that gives tank hunter.

@Pax: So, its actually the Tau Commander giving the Reapers these abilities...How many support systems are that? 3? 4?

So, no skyfire & interceptor, right? Still, S8 shots being t/l (or is it re-roll to hits) + tank-hunters are a bit scary to flyers. FMCs pun takut since these are AP3 shots.

@AK: Maybe it's time to use back your Auto-Las Preds configuration. Or, play multiple LRs. Sure, they have the W-Knight, but that's only 2 shots aje. Broadsides pun selalunya in missiles-mode. Unless ada F-Dragons, 2-3 AV14s are your safe bets I think.  

Also, try taking Khorne-Smith (Warpsmith with MoK) to reduce enemy ruin cover sv. Put him in your LR for any repair works that need to be done. Together with properly kitted 4 MoK-Termies, I believe they can tapau any unit that they charge. 

Ini Khorne-Smith pun boleh tahan in cc - ada 7 attacks at S6 AP2 (Rage + FC from banner), but at I1 la. Baru 135pts je. 

Kalau bagi AoBF, boleh go up to 13 S7 AP2 attacks at I4, tapi jd WS3 la pulak. That's why perlu bodyguards. Baru 170pts.

Don't forget the Dirge Caster so the enemy Tau units can't give support Overwatch.

@Pax : The Twin-Linked and Ignores Cover can be used together. The Vet Skill ones I'm not sure. Should have check that one.

@Din : The Tau Commander also has Skyfire and Interceptor. He took down my Heldrake in a single shooting phase . The only Tau is Commander and some Kroot Snipers. He just want the Tau Commander blingness. And oh, he can also give Monster Hunter.

I was totally caught unprepared. The list I bring is not well equipt against such list.
When he deployed, I knew my WE would have a very hard time. When he shoots, I know my WE are just guinea pigs for target practice because there's no LOS blocking terrain at all.

maybe a bloodthirster ally would help.

good idea there with the commander and reapers. A little pricey and op, but then again, this is a combo of two armies that hv been suffering from a lack of updates for a while now.

Now bring back 'em termies and flying monsters to crack this uber unit.

what i mean is you can use twinlink and ignore cover together but you cannot shoot that turn u use it. Your commander is busy trying to get its unit to do all those things.

you can have skyfire + intercepter + tank-hunter as the tank hunter comes from puretide chip which is special issue wargear

Like I said, time to bring in your termies back. 

I also think its time to seriously consider taking Burning Brand of Skalatrax, since u can't rely on the Drake too much. Plus, you get to shoot since Turn 1. S4 v/s T3 is a big boon.

You guys are talking about the puretide engram neurochip, right? it's a signature system, not support, that lets you choose which special rule you wanna use. so u can stack it together with the c&c node and msss. and it lasts until ur next shooting phase.

*edit* Whoops, didn't see ur post explaining the tank hunter stacking.

@Pax : The commander don't need to shoot. What he provide while standing still is more than enough to wipe out one unit per turn bar 2+ armour lah. Summore he can still Intercept incoming reserves during enemy turn and still have the Vet Skill provided earlier.

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Like I said, time to bring in your termies back.

Termies can't handle all the Guided/Prescience Bladestorm. My Terminators mati macam tu je to AP1 Bladestorm hahaha..

If that is how the meta gonna be, maybe it's time to be really serious with my Chaos. I'll rid myself of all the burden. Get myself 2 more Helldrakes. Take 3 LassPreds. Take DP with Burning Brand and a single ADL with Reroll Reserves + some allies. Still got lots of points to spare for possible ally.

I know that bro I use it quite extensively  notice most tau commanders dont shoot anymore.. either go cheep get drone controller for BS5 markerlight drones or the two sensor suites.

bladestorm AP 1 how..sorry i dont have the codex yet.

rolling to wound on a 6 its ap2

Not so tera la .... AP2

Assault Termies still okay.. Chaos.. lupakan sajalah hahaha..

suddenly land raider's good again...

observing the current trend of codex, everything is going over-powered, and balance is thrown out and left to interpretation dy... so I'd say 'go wild' with your army construction, just don't be boring.

My new list. Naah... I'm not going OP yet. It is just too easy.
Just preparing my WE better against the Eldar/Tau. First try.

Khorne Terminator Lord | Lightning Chainfist, Vets
4 Terminators | 4 CMeltas (LR | Dozer, Dirge)
8 Berserkers | PSword (Rhino | Dozer, Dirge)
8 Berserkers | PAxe (Rhino | Dozer, Dirge)
8 Berserkers | PSword (Rhino | Dozer, Dirge)
BaleDrake
Tri-Lass Predator
Tri-Lass Predator
Tri-Lass Predator
ADL

Not so happy with it coz looks boring. But what can I do hahaha. 11 Lascannons to take out Wraithknight and Serpents. And Berserkers to die for Khorne.

ok ni list

why not change one pred to one squad oblits? more variety at least. i know from xp that it's damn hard to kill and you get all kinds of weapons. even deepstriking them is a good idea. imagine they'd be like crisis suits with terminator stats. just a thought. can still be fluffy if you put in MoK in them. but not a unit u wanna use to charge i suppose. hehe.